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I completely agree. My husband doesn’t though. But when we’ve been in wards where it was literally impossible to get home and visiting teaching done, I would have been more than happy to not have anyone assigned to us so they could visit someone else. |
My personal uninspired opinion to your question is NO. Hometeaching is perhaps the worst executed program in the Church. This could change. My suggestions include: 1) Allow couples to hometeach together. If we are after fellowshipping and friendshiping then this would help. Setting up appointments would be easier and you wouldn’t complain about your companion. 2) Allow families to exempt out of receiving hometeachers if they choose not to and if there are too many families to teach. Nothing is more depressing than getting 5 families and the expectation to minister to them monthly. 3) Eliminate the statistical reporting and expectation to visit 1 x per month and read the 1st Pres message. Instead report back to priesthood leadership about needs that may exist and how you helped serve them. 4) Prioritize and allocate resources for the greatest possible gain. Start off with just less actives (minister to those who need it most) and slowly add active members as resources allow. 5) Do away with the dreaded PPI as a taskmaster to promote compliance with the existing hometeaching protocol. This is all uninspired and these suggestions will never see the light of day, but I hope those who are inspired can consider revamping the mouse trap. There are many ways to better minister more effectively than under the current paradigm. |
Home Teaching is the most vital and underused program in the church. I tell you now, if each ward had 100% home teaching numbers, activity in the ward would be far higher. I’d love to be home taught every month. I have no problem with other members visiting my home and imparting a message about the Gospel. If done properly, they will bring the Spirit into our home. |
Razorfish – I love the uninspired suggestions. I know that at various times when I have been in HTing organizing type callings, I have tried to do one or more of those. Some worked better than others, but it certainly helped out. Dan – good for you. Perhaps you have much better hometeachers than I am used to having or are, more likely, much more spiritually in tune than I am. I wish I felt the same about the visits. I would agree that if we had higher HTing numbers the activity rates would be a lot higher too… |
Hometeaching active families can well be used to encourage less active hometeachers to have the blessing of home teaching. Thus the hometeacher is strengthened through the exchange. Plus – you never can tell about active families. My dad and I were assigned to several families = some of the active families went through hard times, fairly unexpectedly. My dad is just glad he could be there for the family. I also think it is too bad when HT families are swapped so quickly. A change every year doesn’t seem to be the most optimaly situation. |
The problem is that it is numbers driven. We once had a HT who insisted on coming at 9 PM because that’s when I got home from work. I also left very early in the morning for work. I understand that he was doing the best that he could and he was very dedicated, but I think that since we are active members of the church, one month missed would have been OK. In hindsight maybe I just should have told him no. |
Yeah, I think every family should be home taught. In a church of perfect hometeaching, it strengthens members and leverages the bishop’s time significantly. Should we feel like failures if we don’t home teach every family? I don’t think so. And, to be completely honest, like Devyn, I don’t mind (and often prefer) when the hometeachers miss me. 1. The winner and most unorthodox I’ve seen (lasted about 6 months) was “group home teaching”. We were in a ward (which shall remain nameless to protect the guilty) with a lot of active young couples and a lot of inactive families. To focus on the inactives, the active families got together briefly after church, talked for a few minutes, and were declared “home taught”. They were then instructed to get 100% of the inactive families. It produced mixed results. |
Jared, When my hometeachers show up unannounced at 9pm on the last day of the month, just as I arrive home from a 2 hour commute, I do tell them no. I tell them they can consider me hometaught if they wish and if the bishop will accept that. |
i’m with dan and mark. and we’ve been ht three times and vt twice in the past 4.5 years. and i’d only count one of those visits as a “real” visit. #7, we had a ward who did the first thing, “pod teaching.” don’t you know, the first counselor’s friend knew someone in utah who had a cousin who called mary ellen smoot and got her express permission to do it? (no, really, that’s what they said.) it was totally not effective. the next ward cut back to quarterly visits, no companionships (why do the men always seem to handle companionships better than the women? this has been our experience in every ward), group “teaching” that included things like a checkmark if they all went out to the neighborhood playground… yuck. they ran less than 30% the entire time. i’d rather run those numbers by the book than in such willy-nilly ways. |
In general, I think every member should be hometaught. There are exceptions and those exceptions should be identified in ward leadership correlation meetings. I have had so many positive experiences with hometeaching that it would be tiresome to enumerate them in a single comment or even a blog post – plus it might sound like I was thumping my chest. But honestly, my father used to cajole me every single month to go along with him in his hometeaching – and I’m glad he did. Because ever since then I’ve made an effort to do hometeaching and in the process I’ve made many friends and have many positive memories that I would not have had otherwise. I had one humorous experience a few years ago that I’ll never forget. I read an interesting article in USA Today about a guy who was doing something called “jackpodding” (with his iPod). He lived in Basking Ridge (NJ). Somehow in the course of reading the article I didn’t read his name or think too much about it. But I saw the link to his blog and followed it – leaving a comment about how I had lived in Basking Ridge, blah blah blah. Well the guy wrote me back and said – “Say hi to your father for me.” When I read his name I gasped because my father and I had both been assigned to him as hometeachers for a period of years. We have semi-regular contact now via email and blog comments and it’s a fun dynamic that I still enjoy. That’s only one fun experience. I’ve had many, many more. Of course hometeaching isn’t always fun. But if those who are involved truly achieve friendship, just about anything can happen. It is ironic sometimes how the person you are assigned to visit and care for may end up nourishing and caring for you. While I’ve experienced this to a very satisfying degree in my hometeaching, simply through the friendships or lasting memories that have been created, I’ve seen even more dramatic personal and spiritual experiences that have happened with my mother and wife in their visiting teaching experiences. In one situation, there was a supremely spiritual experience – the kind you usually just don’t hear about or experience for yourself (at least I haven’t). Since it isn’t my experience to share, I won’t. Also, hometeaching and visiting teaching companionships may mean more than people think about. There’s an opportunity for lasting friendship and missionary work there as well. |
Our stake president has just instructed us in the stake to prioritize home teaching in this order: In our branch we have 350 on the rolls and 100 active. So we do not home teach active families unless instructed by the bishop. I do not know how it will work, because this was just handed to us this month. Of course with the amount of members per home teachers we will not be home teaching most of the active families. |
I find this a very interesting topic because I am struggling with visiting teaching – both as teacher and as taught. I currently have a fairly low profile in our ward, as I can’t participate in any activities. I don’t really know anyone and (at the risk of being burned in hellfire) don’t really want to get to know anyone to the point where I’d make a concerted effort. Visiting Teaching is a time-consuming drag. I have never really gotten anything out of it, and never understood the point. That being said, I want to understand the point, and have been trying to “get it” for over a decade. It wasn’t until after my mission that I gave up on it – I just don’t care enough to put forth the energy anymore. Any faith-promoting stories are invited . . . . Home teaching is way off the radar – I have not been visited by home teachers since college. |
Interesting perspectives. Danithew – I have had great experiences as a hometeacher – usually with families who are less active or struggling and rarely with active families who are not struggling. However, this post is about being hometaught where I have not had great experiences. Dan, Mark and Anony – exactly why I posted this. I don’t want the HTer showing up at 9PM the last Sunday of the month when they actually come. adam – I like the triage and think that it makes a lot of sense in most cases |
Silverrain – I can certainly understand your perspective. I think for me the point of hometeaching or any calling in the Church is that it “forces” me to serve others in a way I would not normally choose to do. I have had some very rewarding hometeaching experiences with others that have built my testimony as well as helped me with things I am struggline with (e.g., selfishness or belief in a particular Doctrine). Usually it is members who are struggling or only semi-active. This is where I have also built some great life long friendships. So perhaps VTing can be a chance to find some great friends who are struggling with various issues and you can help each other out without building strong relationships within the ward if you choose not to |
Devyn, sorry about that. I meant to share experiences of hometeaching and being hometaught. I’m surprised anyone wouldn’t want to be hometaught. I’m always grateful when someone comes by and goes to the trouble to share a spiritual message. It’s the ones that don’t even try to set up an appointment that bother me. |
Danithew – no problem. I just don’t get anything from it – I can read the Ensign in a much shorter time than having someone tell me the same story. I have a problem with people who do not do their hometeaching to those in need, but I am kind of glad when they miss me – I know a bit of a double standard, but we are all made up on inconsistencies… |
Devyn, when you say “we are all made up on inconsistencies” … well,l I couldn’t agree more. Maybe I’m evil. I rarely use the Ensign in my hometeaching visits. It’s not deliberate. I have nothing against the Ensign. But usually I try to tailor the lesson or spiritual thought to whatever is going on with the family I’m visiting. |
Danithew – good for you, I don’t use it either as I figure they can read as well as I can so I try to make it a little more interesting. I have never had a hter diverge from the Ensign though… |
I couldn’t agree more. There is little need for my family to sit around and pretend like we are interested in a lesson that a person we barely know gives us, and we know that it is quite likely the case that he does not want to be there either. Perhaps I say this because I also do not like home teaching. |
I visit a 91-year-old woman, inactive after three temple missions. Can’t really give her a lesson (deafness), can’t really help her in a material sense (her daughter takes good care of her), but I can sit and listen to her stories of how she met her husband and of what a great man her father was. She looks forward to the visits — combs her hair and puts on a pretty blouse, and is standing at the door waiting for the appointment. She needs and loves these visits and is happier for them, and as silly as it seems, it may be the greatest act of service I am capable of rendering. I need home and visiting teachers myself, who have recently started visiting after I’ve had to go most of my adult life without them. (I haven’t had a priesthood blessing since June 1981 — without home teachers, there’s really no obvious person for me to call on. I once briefly considered walking into traffic in front Salt Lake, hoping that some passerby would stop …) But if they asked ward members to volunteer to go without home teachers because the burden on the men was simply too great, I suspect I would feel pressured to volunteer. What’s the alternative? “I’m so important that your burden be damned! Visit me!” is what I would feel my request for teachers would sound like. |
My wife and I had a conversation about this very topic a few nights ago, and I think what I told her was almost exactly word-for-word what Wayne just said. (By the way Wayne, I think I was assigned to HT you at one point in your old ward before you moved. I guess I did you a favor by not calling, right? I’ll count that as service.) HT almost always feels like going through the motions with each visit, especially with an active family. To make matters worse, when I do feel motivated to do my HT, I find that families often aren’t helpful in being available for visits. This is true about active families just as much as inactive families. I generally interpret that as a lack of desire to be visited, because I can relate to the feeling. I haven’t been home taught in over 3 years, and I don’t miss it at all. A couple things about HT I’d love to see change: |
Wayne L and Casey – I agree completely with your takes. Casey – I like the suggestions, particularly that we should not get so hung up on a monthly visit. The key is to know how your families are doing and what their needs are – if you can keep up on it with a phone call/discussion at church then so be it… |
Our ward has a similar ratio, and there are 10-15 families on each HT route. This means that getting 100% or anything close to it pretty much unrealistic, which is really nice because it’s the first time that the focus has been on quality home-teaching and ministry rather than statistics. It’d kind of liberating, really. Instead of setting percentage goals, like most Elders’ Quorums I’ve been in, we are instructed to prayerfully identify the families that need to be seen each month and then visit them. This means that many of those active families don’t get visited every month, and I have no problem with that. FWIW, my way of dealing with numbers-emphasis and guilt-tripping has been to just ignore it. I guess my attitude is that the EQ President can harp on me all he wants but my skin is thick enough that I don’t care what he says and I’m 100% unmotivated by numbers or guilt. When they would ask me how many families I home taught I wouldn’t tell them numbers, I would give a short report on each family: how they’re doing, what the last visit was like, etc. Maybe it’s just my passive-aggressive way of steadying the ark. |
I don’t like being home taught, and I’m neutral about home teaching. I only remember actually enjoying home teaching one family, as we did things as families before I was assigned. What really bugs me the most, though, is my wife was assigned to write letters and count it as visiting teaching. That’s a bunch of crap that doesn’t accomplish anything but destroying trees and spending money on postage. |
More relevant to the post, when my father was Bishop, he instructed the ward priesthood leaders about specific families that did not need to be home taught (only a few). He also instructed them to take families that consistently refused home teachers off of routes. Obviously the percentages went up, but the visits did too. It’s alot easier to call up and visit two or three families who you know want you there than 5 or 6 of which only 1 or 2 care that you even know their name. |
Kyle – Email. And it does help. I would much rather write/be written an email or two per month than to try to make the time to actually drive around and visit/be visited. |
JKC – that is a nice approach for dealing with numbers guilt issue. KyleM – I would agree with SilverRain that an email could work. I know that while it may seem like a waste of time to do a letter, they can make a difference for an older or secluded person. However, with that said, save the postage and the trees for the majority of members. I like your father’s approach, it certainly would make it easier to hometeach. |
re: 24, the only time we’ve had regular letter routes were for inactives, less actives, hard to contact sisters, people who refused vt, or for dnc’s, which all seem like appropriate uses of a letter route. well, except for the dnc. drove me NUTS as the vt coordinator to assign someone to send letters to people who have requested no contact. we went rounds over it and i was shot down every time. “well, it’s not like we’re calling or visiting them! they can throw the letter away!” um, okay, what part of CONTACT do you not understand?! |
In every ward I have been in, I have resisted having visiting teachers come over. I was active and I had very little free time that matched up with theres, especially as I was usually the only one working. Emails or a card in the mail were welcome – the lines of communication were open. And they would personally visit maybe every other month or every few months. This was a great arrangement. I think with home teaching, this same principle should apply. If its a super active family, and theres just no time in the month for a visit, chatting with them at church and maybe calling a couple times during the month to see how they are doing should really serve the same purpose…just make sure and visit every now and again. I think the issue is sort of a spirt vs. letter of the law…we forget the spirit of home teaching, and focus solely on checking a family off every month. That being said, and SilverRain…this is for you :) I think VT is central to creating unity in our relief societies, and I think HT is the same for our wards. And in building Zion in our community, I think unity is pretty important. Im not in EQ however and don’t know how they administer the program, but I think Adams stake’s idea is along the right lines…our time has to priortized and I think its unrealistic to think a ward will ever be 100% if that means a 30 min in home visit every single month. I also know in RS, usually the VT assignments for the really active women (say the presidency etc) who were in RS every week, were usually given to the less active sisters, so, the active good VTs were assigned to those who need it most, that way, the program was working to fulfill its purpose best. |
Veritas – thanks for the comment it was refreshing and interesting to hear your perspective and those types of stories do help my own somewhat weak faith. |
In my stake (~2800 members), the latest HT stats came out at approximately 28%. VT stats were about 60%. If this was a public company, the management would be fired and replaced with new management team. They in turn would likely change the mechanics of hometeaching or modify the program itself. Instead, our stake will continue to list along at 28% HT. Is this level of HT success an anomoly or par for most stakes? |
Razorfish – 28% is probably on par with my stake for HT while VT is probably in the 50-60% range. I don’t think it is possible to do much higher given the current structure in a stake like mine given the huge number of inactive families (tend to be one member in a family) that cannot realistically be hometaught by the active members. |
I can’t remember if I said this before, but maybe 85% of the women in our ward work. This leads to a domino effect/affect (somebody help me with that one, I can’t get it) of stressed out lives. It’s really hard for them to be visiting teachers and I suspect their husbands are stressed out, as well. It will take the wisdom of Solomon to figure this out, but it is sure difficult in our ward. I am sort of the idiot savant of our ward re visiting teaching because I know everyone and I’m OCD about arranging it so everyone can participate who wants to and people are looked after. But I’m getting burned out and discouraged. What you suggest, Devyn, appeals to me on so many levels you can’t imagine. I need a nap. |
annegb – You mention an interesting dichotomy that we have in our ward – the stay at home moms tend to do a pretty good job of VTing, while the working mothers do a poorer job of VTing, while the males overall just do a terrible job regardless of their work/school status. What do you do in your ward for people who are so busy they prefer not to be home taught? |
I don’t know about home teaching, well, nobody does it, so there’s not a problem. We do have women who will not let visiting teachers come in. In one case, I have assigned a neighbor to keep an eye out and be a friend. I know, that sucks, but for now, it’s what we can do. And keep them in our prayers. There are several others who we have assigned a home bound sister to send a short note. She goes the extra mile and is devoted to the women she has a stewardship over. She sends them little treats and cute things and never forgets them. She said last month a woman she’d been doing this for, for over a year, had greeted her in a very friendly manner, thanked her, and told her she was glad she was her visiting teacher. But like I said, I know almost every woman in our ward, fairly well, and I cherry pick them for each other. The guys, I don’t know, they suck. No offense. When home teaching is done right, it’s not an imposition, it lifts the burdens of the family. That could mean when the family is too busy for a formal visit, the home teacher goes over and shovels the walks. Or takes a pizza once a month. Anything goes as long as the bond is established, strengthened, and blesses the lives of the people we have a stewardship for. Is that a dangling participle? I really want to know because I think I do it a lot. I guess visiting teaching is my equivalent of global warming. I can get very violent in a discussion of this principle. :) |
Annegb – I often tell my wife that men suck in the Church overall (I don’t exclude myself from this either). We are always five steps behind the women. If we really want the Church to take over the earth – give the Priesthood to women and get out of their way… yes – that is a dangling participle – I was always taught to never end a sentence in a preposition… |
Hmmm. . .is a preposition also a participle? Among us, it’s okay. The other day I was in the Maverik buying the traditional Wednesday slurpees for Rowan and Max, and I let them have an additional treat. It was an important decision. They were all over the store trying to decide. Finally, as I herded them out the store, I said, “Grandma don’t have no more money.” This educated looking guy glanced at me in derision. I just winked at him. But you know, Devyn, I’m not one to slam the men of the world. We need you guys. I almost wonder if men aren’t more stressed than women. I also wonder if these programs aren’t obselete and need complete overhauling. |
Annebg = I don’t know the answer to that just what my mission president frightened us into doing… I know that we are needed – hard to reproduce without us, but beyond that there are not a lot of things that men do better than women. Men also cause a lot of the hell and problems in the world. So perhaps a few are needed, while the rest are redundant… |
You people are crazy!!! |
Jeremy – Thanks for the compliment – perhaps we are all nutty, but we have a good time and help each other work out. |