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If you are purchasing her CD’s, then you’re doing something wrong. |
How can you speak so disrespectfully of one of our country’s greatest singing legends? A woman who has done more to speak out against the Supreme Court appointed wannabe President that has gotten us into such a mess because of his own male insecurities and his well-known issues with his daddy. She has had the courage and the strength to not follow the herd like a mindless automatron leading our country over the cliff in the name of saving face. We should have never entered Iraq. We will not win in Iraq because there is nothing to win. The three different groups have no desire to form on democratic nation. If we had just concentrated in creating a democracy in Afghanistan like we should have, we would not have spent $400 BILLION dollars with nothing to show for it. When will church members get a true understanding of what is taught so plainly in the Book of Mormon. The only way to win against the modern-day Gadianton robbers is to repent and change our ways. Once we get our own house in order and stop with the divorce, adultery, selfishness, immoral music and movies, and all the other vices we tolerate in the name of “freedom” then the Lord will do the rest. But even members do not want to hear such talk because they really do not believe it. Barbra is doing a great job of fighting the corporate and neo-conservative conspiracy that is quickly destroying what so many previous generations have built. |
How can you speak so disrespectfully of one of our country’s greatest singing legends? It’s easy. She’s annoying. |
I totally agree with annegb, she (BS) should be killed. |
Michael, you’re a nut. annegb, you’ve hit the nail on the head. |
I don’t think she should run over by a bus. I think she should be forced to listen to People Who Need People over and over 24/7 until she begs for mercy. |
Now Mark, I think that’s just plain cruel! |
You all have just proven my point that most church members have no clue what is needed to provide us with the security necessary to avoid a repeat of 9/11. That is why Hillary is our only choice. She will make the tough decisions that are necessary without the encumbering baggage of a messed up irrational male ego to satisfy. VOTE FOR HILLARY! From a true Floridian who knows what he is talking about. |
Dear DKL, With all due respect and with the utmost love, I am not a nut. I am not the one who got a degree in philosophy. I went for finance instead. Love, Michael |
I thought at first Michael was doing a parody of a defender. I agree that Barbra’s clear bias and smug superiority overshadows what is in her message that might be good. Self-righteous crowing is hard to take from anyone, but especially from the self-appointed champions. There is an inherent arrogance is announcing that one is speaking truth to power – the arrogance of assuming that what one is saying is truth. When she is as deaf and insensitive to other viewpoints as anyone she is attacking may be, she undermines her own message. |
Finally, a sane, balanced and truthful voice. Thank you Katie P. |
You mean Sean Penn didn’t stop the war? |
The fact is that many in Hollywood, when they realize the audience they can reach feel a moral responsiblity to use their position for good. Surely Barbara is not pushing an agenda she doesn’t believe in. The Smothers Brothers also pushed their views, and their career may have suffered for it. The problem with this is that Barbara Streisand is surely not in a better position to understand the complex issues facing America than an Average American (she pretends to), and I would say that because of her social position, she is definitely in a poor position to represent the American people. The same may be said of GW Bush, but the American people didn’t elect her as president in 2006. They bought her CD in 1976. There is a big difference. |
“You shouldn’t speak until you know what you’re talking about. That’s why I get uncomfortable with interviews. Reporters ask me what I feel China should do about Tibet. Who cares what I think China should do? I’m a **** actor! They hand me a script. I act. I’m here for entertainment, basically, when you whittle everything away. I’m a grown man who puts on makeup.”—Brad Pitt quoted in Time October 13, 1997 |
I remeber about 4 years a go, this great article about BS, where she had just made a bunch of statements in support of Al Gore type ideals for saving the planet by using less power, using less gasoline, hand washing clothes, yadda yadda. I don’t mind her saying these things. What I got a kick out of was that the reporter checked out three or four of her estates, none of which were occupied, and all had the air conditioning running, and she has employees who do her laundry, and she drove an SUV. And thus I have never paid attention to Barbara Streisand again. |
Michael, that was me being restrained. Actually, you all did a better job than I of expressing that frustration. I love her voice, I love to hear her sing. Well, I used to, I can’t hear her now without thinking about her looking at Bill Clinton with such blind hunger you’d think she probably paid him for the honor of sleeping with him. It sort of grosses me out. |
If Barbara were to be hit by the bus, then a great source of continual amusement would be gone. There’s the e-mails and memos she writes that are misspelled. Then there’s the old story that she faces the camera on one side of her face, there’s the number of men she’s claimed to bedded (that list makes me giddy–what a she-stud, she claims to be), there’s the shouting match she got in a few months ago…rarely 6 months go by without a Babs boo-boo. |
I forgot to mention the McCain/Streisand sketch on snl. Part of one of the best snls in the past 5 years. snl is so hit and miss, but that episode was brilliant. |
I don’t think she should run over by a bus. I think she should be forced to listen to People Who Need People over and over 24/7 until she begs for mercy. Mark IV, while I’m super pro-torture and all, that is just SO wrong. |
Oh how I wish every celeb possessed the wisdom of Brad Pitt. And I can’t believe I just said that. |
Pee-pall. Pee-pall who annoy pee-pall. I’d be willing to drive the bus if someone will volunteer to collect fares. |
Do you also have a problem with Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarznegger turning from acting to politics? Or is it just celebs who promote causes that are most often affiliated with the Democrats? |
Now that is my definition of hell: I don’t think she should run over by a bus. I think she should be forced to listen to People Who Need People over and over 24/7 until she begs for mercy. Either that, or being stuck in a room with the Bay City Rollers as they sing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons!!! BRING ME THE HEAD OF BARRY MANILOW!!! |
I wish Barbra Streisand would run for something. It’s easy to sit on your butt and criticize. I’m not anti-Democrat, Naismith, although why do you think the big mouth celebrities are Democrats? Where are the Republican big mouth celebrities? Democrats I would consider voting for: Barak Obama, that guy who’s the governor of New Mexico (I can see his face, can’t think of his name Bill–something), Pat Schroeder rocks. Democrats I would date: Tim Robbins I think I’m a dreaded moderate independent. Using your right as a citizen to run for office is one thing. Using your bully pulpit when I’ve paid $40 for a concert seat is quite another. |
Babs doesn’t run for any office because she knows there’s not a chance in hell she’d be elected. (Why should she? She’s in the perfect situation as a high-profile non-officeholder: high VISIBILITY, zero ACCOUNTABILITY!) |
The holy grail of bloggers everywhere. |
All you Streisand haters should be run over by a bus. I never have read such inane mean-spirited gibberish from individuals who aren’t worthy or qualified to lick the bottom of her Stuart Weitzman’s! She is THE Goddess. |
Vince, your name links back to msn.com … if you are acting as Microsoft’s official representative, well, that explains a lot. Hating Barbra Streisand is a sport, like basketball, lacrosse or clubbing baby seals. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to participate. |
“Using your bully pulpit when I’ve paid $40 for a concert seat is quite another.” I guess I don’t see how this is any different from a pharmaceutical company lobbying for public policy after you’ve paid $140 for a drug, or Bill Gates speaking out after you’ve paid $1,400 for a computer. But maybe the whole thing would have made more sense if a link to one of these objectionable comments from her had been posted (or was it there and not working with my browser?). The observation that, “But you know, I don’t hear Barbara listening to my opinion. I don’t hear her even caring if I have an opinion,” is a sentiment that certainly applies to how I feel about George Bush. So I guess I’m not quite getting the problem. |
Stuart Weitzman? Is that a shoe? |
Naismith (29): You mean you wouldn’t object if you paid $40 to hear a singer at a live concert, and instead of singing she gave you a political speech for 20 minutes of your concert time? That would be like the pharmaceutical company handing you a tape of a political speech instead of a bottle of pills, or Bill Gates forcing you to wait through a political message before your “enter” key would register as a keystroke. |
annegb, you rock. Your comments and posts are awesome. I’m with you on this one. |
You know, this is an interesting thing. I fully expected to have my face ripped off for saying such a terrible thing. I’ve been quite surprised that others feel the same way I do. That being said, I don’t hate Barbra Streisand. I hate my former brother-in-law who treated my sister terribly and left her destitute and homeless. I don’t wish her dead. My whatever-being-run-by-a-bus is called in English classes was expressing my frustration with celebrities in general. And believe me, Naismith, if she were a Republican and wanted to sleep with GWB, she would annoy me just as much. I would like to hear her or others come out and say they respect the masses for whom they provide the opiate of fantasy and entertainment and allow that we all have choices. Why does she hold her fans, her audience in such disregard that she feels they are completely ignorant and need her advice? And again, where are the obnoxious Republican celebrities preaching at their concerts? What’s up with that interesting fact in terms of sociology? |
“Naismith (29): You mean you wouldn’t object if you paid $40 to hear a singer at a live concert, and instead of singing she gave you a political speech for 20 minutes of your concert time? That would be like the pharmaceutical company handing you a tape of a political speech instead of a bottle of pills, or Bill Gates forcing you to wait through a political message before your “enter†key would register as a keystroke.” That’s a very valid point, but I didn’t realize that is what the OP was decrying; it wasn’t clear from the original entry. To me, that is a totally different issue than celebs speaking out on politics; that’s the issue of the relationship between someone performing a service and their client/audience. Some years ago I was at a live filming of Austin City Limits when one of the cameras got messed up. Typically, the audience starts chattering and the band takes a break until it is fixed. But these particular performers, the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, have such a strong sense of commitment to their audience that one singer said, “These people came here for a concert.” They unplugged, sat on the edge of the stage and sang House at Pooh Corner and another song with acoustic accompaniment until the camera was fixed and the taping resumed. But as far as celebs getting involved in politics, I’ve generally found it a positive. My job is such that I can listen to podcasts part of the time I am working, and I listen to all the Sunday morning interview shows. Interviews with George Clooney and Angelina Jolie about situations in Africa have been impressive. I know people who make fun of them, but I think they’ve done a great thing in raising awareness of issues. |
Toby Keith? DVDA? |
But Toby Keith doesn’t stop singing in order to express his view of the American way. |
Now wait. Starvation in Sudan is not politics, it’s a human issue. They’re not telling people who to vote for. What is DVDA and OP? |
#36. I’ve never been to a TK concert, I’ve jsut heard second-hand info that they are pro-Bush and pro-Busch. DVDA is a band that totally rawks! eff yeah! From one of their songs, America… |
I’m no Streisand fan, but if her political squawking is really that annoying, then won’t the market fix it? If people hate it that much, they’ll refuse to buy her music, they’ll refuse to go to her concerts, she’ll lose prestige, and then get less press and nobody will have to listen to her. I suspect that the reason she’s still doing it is either 1) her music is good enough that people are willing to put up with her political crap, or 2) her political crap isn’t as annoying to people in general as we think. |