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I last stayed in a Marriott in January 2006. Pay-per-view porn was available, as was the Book of Mormon in the night stand. And the mini bar was well stocked. |
The problem that I see that Marriott has is that it is a public company with the family owning |
sorry I got cut off there – The Marriott family only owns |
These are all economic decisions (except the BoM). People complain of smoke, they get rid of it. People want porn and alcohol, they supply it. If they get rid of porn they lose a large portion of their customers (travelling businessmen who aren’t with their spouse and who aren’t paying for the room/porn/alcohol). Sure it would be nice to think Bill Marriott would get rid of porn but there is no way the board members would allow it. |
Weird – my comments are getting cut off, but I agree with Rusty |
Other than the room rate, pay-per-view porn is by far the biggest money maker in a hotel. As Rusty mentioned, it’s an economic decision. |
“Other than the room rate, pay-per-view porn is by far the biggest money maker in a hotel.” How is this known? I’ve never read anything specific about it. Is there an article somewhere with hotel earning statistics/percentages listed that show pornography is such a high earner for them? It would be interesting to read a little more about this and also to know if there could possibly be any financial incentive at all for a hotel to advertise that it does NOT offer pornography for viewing. |
I remember seeing something on one of the TV news shows (60 Minutes, Dateline or 20/20) discussing the revenues of porn in hotels. They talked about the Marriott Hotel chain being owned by Mormons. Interesting story. There might be something available on-line (Wikipedia, Google search)? I’d search now and share the information, but my employer has a great internet filter and my boss would get an email. :-) |
I am in an IT department for an upscale hotel. Perhaps it’s just executive class luxury hotels where this is true, but it is very true at our property. |
It would be interesting…to know if there could possibly be any financial incentive at all for a hotel to advertise that it does NOT offer pornography for viewing. Not likely. There is no way they would recover the lost customers (businessmen) with anti-porn customers (likely families). It is funny to think that the Church gets tithing funds paid for by porn. |
KyleM, would you be able to estimate a percentage of earnings by any chance? Have you ever heard specific figures? Just wondering. It’s interesting to hear from someone who is close to a source of actual information on the subject. |
Actually, my previous comment was based off of what I saw 7 years ago. Evidently there have been alot of changes. I just looked at the financials, and we don’t even make money off of pay-per-view. The biggest money maker now is parking. Next is food and beverage. But 60 – 70% of the movies rented are classified adult, depending on the month. The funny thing is the average view time of an adult movie is only 11 minutes. My guess as to why the porn revenue has dropped: We started giving away free broadband internet access. As an aside, wWe also don’t make any real money on the minibar. Rusty, I’ve often thought about how much “blood money” is paid to the church in tithes and offerings. |
Just a technical correction. The Marriot family doesn’t own the hotels with the Marriot name. The hotel properties themselves are owned by other corporations. The Marriot corportion is just the _management_ company hired to run the hotels. Marriot corp is the contractor, not the owner. |
I’m terribly disappointed. I know it’s a business decision, and it’s their business, but smoking gets a bad rap. It’s great fun, and tobacco tastes good besides. Someday, when I’m resurrected, I will smoke again. |
DKL, you forgot to mention that it’s also cool. |
Bookslinger (#13), Re your “technical correction.” According to the Marriott web site, “Marriott International, Inc., one of the world’s largest lodging companies,… a $19 billion global lodging company with 2,700 properties in 70 countries…. Marriott International [is] a hotel management and franchising company…. and Host Marriott International [is] a hotel ownership company.” The two divisions, franchising and ownership, are chaired by two Marriott brothers, J. Willard Jr. and Richard. The family is responsible for decisions that effect how Marriott franchised hotels are run, as well as how Marriott owned hotels are run. The web site proudly proclaims that J. Willard Jr. “is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.” Porn-free would be nice. |
Yes. Porn-free would be nice. I wonder what number and percentage of the hotels that bear the Marriot name are actually owned by Marriott. I was a big indignant when I read that naughty pay-per-view was available at Marriott hotels, but someone rejoined that in (at least) most of the cases, the Marriott family didn’t even own the hotels. So I wonder now if that is correct, or if that’s merely a corporate shell game. Speaking of booze and porn… shortly after I joined the church, I was in a temple preparation class with a convert couple. The husband mentioned that he sold his extensive wine collection before getting baptized. Soon after I had received a testimony, I poured the contents of my liquor cabinet down the sink, therefore I wanted to tease him for selling “demon rum” but I held my tongue. I also wanted to say (but didn’t) something like, “Dang! I could have sold my porno collection.” |
instead of throwing it in the trash, that is. |
Omni Hotels has no adult magazines at its gift shops and no adult pay-per-view in its rooms. Peter Strebel, Omni Hotels vice president of marketing, says the company’s “pro-family” stance regarding its business operations was in direct conflict with the movieservice. “Money is not the issue in this matter,” says Strebel. “Not all business decisions should be fiscally driven. We believe that this is the right thing to do; the right thing for Omni Hotels, our associates and our customers.” |
Loews Hotels doesn’t either. |
After that 20/20 – 60 Minutes special came out, my then institute teacher had the secretary draft a letter to the First Presidency asking that all CES trips NOT be booked at Marriott due to the fact that they still made porn available. I have no idea if there was every any response, but I admire his stepping up and pointing that out. |
am i the only one who sees no correlation between the smoking ban and the availability of porn? they didn’t say they were banning smoking because it is morally reprehensible. as someone who is extremely sensitive to smoke, i appreciate their actions. i recently vacationed with some girlfriends, one of whom smokes like a chimney. they rented her a smoke-free room on a smoke-free floor and i don’t see how they’ll ever rent it out as such again. you could smell the smoke wafting down the hallway, it was that bad. you just can’t get rid of that smell. we’re staying in a marriott next weekend and then a week later for another week. i’ve never gone in search of the porn, but it’d be interesting to check while we’re there. my extremely anti-lds mother only stays at marriotts because of the quality for cost. she just ignores what’s in the nightstand. tells me they’re a good enough chain when mom will still stay there! |
Prominent church member John Harmer, former Lt. Governor of Cailfornia under Ronald Reagan, doesn’t buy Mitt Romney’s claim that he was unaware of Marriott porn sales… |
As a LDS, who just started coming back to church, and also a recovering porn addict, I am deeply disturbed and disappointed by Marriott’s adult movie offerings. I did write him and the Church’s First Presidency letters expressing my feelings on this. It bothers me that the Omni Hotel chain was able to do the right thing a few years ago and the Mormon associated hotel insists on continuing to be in this business. What a terrible example to the world. |
I love Marriot hotels. Their beds are really comfy and their food is good and you can get first run movies, not the porn I’m talking about. I mean I don’t watch the porn. |
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#25- annegb- Try a Hampton Inn. The beds are plush, free extensive buffet breakfast, free cookies at check-in, free USA Today newspapers. In my book Hampton beats Marriott 12 ways to Sunday. I bring my own BofM when traveling, so I don’t need to borrow one from the hotel. |
This sounds interesting. Let me check on his blog and read some articles. |
I had checked in for Marriot hotels for about three times already. Well, I love their services. I love their comfortable rooms and I love their foods. Not really have any serious negative comment from them except the porn movies that are available for viewing. |