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Darn, I forgot to bake a cake in honor of Bloggernacle Day! Actually, I forgot that today was the day we received a name. It is interesting to see the progression of LDS on-line communities over the years. I recall participating in an LDS “electronic forum” when I went to a community college. The discussion wasn’t really focused on doctrinal issues. But we did have a lot of fun. I’ll have to dig around when I have more time and post some links to some of my favorite posts over the years. |
I’d like to see both the Mormon Archipelago and LDSelect.org have better communication with bloggers. I attempted to register my political blog on LDSelect long ago. It says that your password will be emailed to you. I never received it. Somehow (through the kind graces of annegb who frequented my political blog) I got my blog to be linked on LDSelect. I still don’t have a password though (and don’t know what good it is seeing that I can reorder the blogs as I wish on the main LDSelect page. I never frequent the Mormon Archipelago (ldsblogs.org) because no one ever got back to me about including my blog on that aggregator. I’ve attempted the same thing with my family blog so I can get more readership on that blog, but no one has contacted me back. Annegb said to me in an email, something I’ve always known, but you’ve got to be persistent in blogging in order to be known. I’d like that to change somewhat on the Bloggernacle if possible. Please make it easier to include family blogs and other blogs people might email asking to be included. At this point I still have an impression that the Bloggernacle is an elitist clique. |
Cabal Dan. It’s a cabal. (Cliques are so high-school) |
My ‘nacle history: 1- I discover the bloggernacle Thanks to all of you who make this possible! |
C Jones, most of us stall out at #4. Dan, you’re confusing Bloggernacle Day for Bloggernacle Is Unfair and Unkind Day. |
gst, haha, well I read danithew’s post and he says:
So I thought this was the perfect opportunity. However, upon the arrival of Bloggernacle is Unfair and Unkind Day, I shall bring it up again. :) |
Dan, the Bloggernacle must be run by a bunch of neocons!!! It’s a conspiracy I tell you! Conspiracy!!! :-) |
Religion is a FARCE! OK, sorry. I was just trying to create some acrimonious discussion. Dan, I think it’s a matter of practicality, not elitism, to exclude family blogs from aggregators like LDSelect. Opening the floodgates to postings of family vacations, announcements of Johnny’s baptism or Suzie’s wedding, would flood the community with so much irrelevant (to everyone but a very small group) information it would render the service essentially useless. |
I KNEW IT!!! Dang nabbit! |
Tagore, My family blog isn’t a normal family blog. Yes we post pictures of our little girl when she plays in the snow for the first time, but we do actually use that blog more for talking about things that come up, such as baseball, or Lost, etc. I’d like for my blog to get more Mormon readers. |
Well, now that you mention baseball, that’s a different story. As long as it’s anti-Yankees. |
haha, well I’m a Redsox fan and my wife is a true New Yorker, down to a full blooded Yankees fan. :) |
Excuse me, but for the record, a died-in-the-wool omnivorous (non-vegetarian) semi-conservative Republican Mormon NEW YORK YANKEES fan wrote this post. Tagore, Dan, it’s nice that you chose to comment here. I want to say that political differences are really not that big a deal and I’m sure we wouldn’t let small things like that cause any lasting friction to come between us. But there will be NO more mention of being anti-Yankees or worse still, a fan of the abominable Red Sox, on this thread _or_ I will unleash a host of ravenous unwashed Guantanamo-bred neo-conservative chupacabras on you both. ECS, wherever you are, I know what you are thinking and that goes for you too. |
Is that all you Yankee fans got? Mere threats of the most painful, harrowing, stomach churning torture? Tell that to a Redsox fan who waited 86 years for a title, and see what he will tell YOU about torture! Sorry, such threats don’t work on us Redsox fans, not after the little bit of heaven we all experienced that one beautifully colored New England fall just a few years ago where a real Red Sock did in the Evil Empire. |
Dan, as the great Ronald Reagan (repeatedly) said during the Iran-Contra hearings: “I have no recollection of that.” |
And you know what? He truly meant what he said. :-) |
Dan, Somehow (through the kind graces of annegb who frequented my political blog) I got my blog to be linked on LDSelect. Up until a few days ago, I was able to see threads I had posted to on your blog show up in the “latest comments” section over on the left side of the ldselect.org page. They’re no longer doing that. I don’t know if it’s another evil conspiracy that’s caused it, or if it’s just an XML file that’s gone bonkers or stopped being written somewhere, but I thought you’d like to know. And then we can both blame it on Bush. |
Happy Bloggernacle Day! I’m new here, and honestly a little intimidated but I figured I’d pop on and say hi at the behest of my dear husband, Dan. Tagore, You will never get an anti-Yankee post from me, and I seek to destroy any one my husband tries to come up with before he can hit “post.” If you ever decide to come back from the Dark Side, let me know. We may welcome you into the fold. We’ll see ;) Danithew– I think you and I are cut from a piece of the same cloth. Nice to meet you. |
Mark,
I noticed that on a bunch of the blogs (including Connor’s). Maybe DKL can explain why this is happening, why his beloved Mormon Mentality shows all the comments, but others don’t. |
Hi Jaime!!! Just so y’all know, I met Jaime during that historic October talking about those very same Redsox kickin’ the Yankees’ trash. Love is a strange thing. :) |
Jaime, I’m glad to see that someone around here has some sense. :) Go Yankees! |
My history was being invited to join The Metaphysical Elders and for some now inexplicable reason thinking it would be funny to take my pretend character and get in an argument with the real me over some philosophical matter. Embarrassing now that I think of it. Not long after The Metaphysical Elders died, later to be replaced by T&S. I have to think my stupidity contributed to not getting invited into that. (grin) Not that I care mind you. By then I’d started up my own blog to blog about esoteric topics few are interested in. (I only get 40 – 50 “repeat” visitors each day judged by cookies – although about 300 “other” visitors: so I’m definitely a small fry) |
Dan: At this point I still have an impression that the Bloggernacle is an elitist clique. For my part, I think that your impression is not entirely incorrect. It’s a difficult crew that can be a real pain in the ass. You know that the jokers over at T&S banned me for about a year because I insisted on using the word “chick” and picked a fight with a celebrity commenter, but they have no tolerance for political incorrectness or people with balls. There’s too much of this everywhere. But there are notable exceptions, and there are some really great people and some very fine blogs. Sorry not to be more responsive with LDSelect. It costs me several hundred dollars a year to host it. Because it requires a server with full root access from an SSH command-line prompt, it won’t do to go with a free or even a very cheap hosting provider. I spend as much time on LDSelect as my wife and my children and my work and my other blogging activities will allow. As a consequence, I end up procrastinating any action that relates to it. I’ll try to see what’s happening with the comments, and I have a mailbox full of email about it that I still need to respond to. Togore, LOL! You’re right about the fact that the LDSelect is intended to be limited to blogs on Mormonism or Mormon studies. |
Clark, along with DMI, you should get the Iron Man award for your blog. It’s been consistently focused on a specific approach for a very long time. Many of us readers don’t have the background in philosophy to fully appreciate or understand what you’re writing about – but it’s still a high-quality blog. I also think it’s cool that you coded your own site from the ground up. Dan, I run a non-hierarchical LDS blog aggregator over at Blognitive Dissonance. If I haven’t added your blog I will do so. |
But Dan, if I’m going to put your blog on my aggregator, just as a matter of practicality, I would like to see more family pictures and announcements of family vacations and personal stuff like that. Family blogs are the best and I get tired of the other blogs that offer so much irrelevant information about scholarly and church-related topics. |
I think someone should create an aggregator for personal blogs. |
Dan, I corresponded with LDS Blogs and they decided not to list you because you are not technically an LDS blog. You are LDS, but your blog is political in nature. It would be stretching to even call if a family blog. DKL decided to list you, but I respect their decision. It wasn’t cliquishness or snobbishness, those guys are the least snobby people I know, and the most helpful. It was based solely on the lack of LDS content on your blog, not on its quality or their deep friendship with you. I’m sorry I didn’t notify you about that, it was quite awhile and when they made that point, I could see they were correct. Putting that aside, blogging takes a huge amount of time and I personally am having less and less (although it doesn’t seem so at the moment, me being so chatty :)) time for blogging. I was browsing through Times and Seasons yesterday and I thought, “one could spend hours on one blog reading all the worthy posts.” I am going to have to downshift considerably. Blogging has been a lifesaver for me, though. If I hadn’t found you guys, I’d never have known I wasn’t the only one like me in the church. Heh, heh…. |
danithew, Thanks!
Sounds like a very fair deal. In fact, you’ll have a report of our trip to New York City which we just did today. Quite the adventure. We’ll blog about it tomorrow, we’re pretty tired right now. |
annegb, I do list issue-oriented blogs by ‘nacle participants. So that, in my view, Dan’s blog is like Ronan’s Headlife or like Nate Oman’s Akrasia used to be before he stopped posting on it. |
Dan, I’m sure you got my point – it just strikes me as absurd that a Mormon blogging aggregator would shun “family blogs.” |
Just to revisit the point – which really tells you more about LDS life and lifestyle? A blog that deals exclusively with political issues, scholarly interests, current events and popular culture? Or a blog where a father or mother posts about family life, raising kids, family vacations, and that sort of thing? I think both kinds of blogs are important. Don’t get me wrong. I just think a latter-day Saint expressing scorn for the “family blog” or “mommy blog” is rather perverse in his/her thinking. |
And you know, Dan, I went to your site, I don’t see anything about family or the church on it. I saw those links “about nationalism” and “about torture” and a lot of posts that basically say “I hate George Bush.” Can you interpret your experience as a Mormon in any other way than as a Democrat? You guys, I’ve noticed something peculiar the last few days as we’ve had this listing discussion. I was just on New Cool Thang, which is a terrific blog. But I noticed a thing for Mormon Archipelago and none for LDS Select. But LDS Select lists them. I’ve seen that on a couple of other blogs. I wonder why that it. Each list has advantages. I probably use LDS select more (although not the bells and whistles, which I don’t understand) because it puts the subject each commenter posts on and it’s easier to follow a subject one is interested in. And now it puts part of their comment as well. But sometimes I catch things on LDS blogs I don’t catch on LDS select, so I go to both of them. Which is why the dog hair is still all over the couch and the whites aren’t folded and the kitchen floor is disgusting. And I haven’t paid my dr. bill yet, which the check is right here. This has got to stop. |
I just realized that the LDS select thing isn’t on my personal blog. I think it’s because Bryce went AWOL. I keep telling people he wasn’t the best slave I ever had. Anybody want to help me with that? There were some links I wanted to put on my blog roll, also. |
Also, I just read Jaime’s post. It’s sort of like reading Shannon’s posts when DKL was fighting with everybody and you would think, “gee he’s got a nice wife.” Jaime, I’d love to hear more from you also. :) |
annegb, You went to my political blog, and not my family blog. Here is the link to my family blog. |
I saw those links “about nationalism†and “about torture†and a lot of posts that basically say “I hate George Bush.†I find it interesting that you would read articles that decry the negative aspects of nationalism and the wickedness of torture and for you that translates to “I hate George Bush”. If the shoe fits… |
annegb, I never really stopped arguing, you know. But you’re right: people always like me better after they meet my wife. |
Mark, have you been to Dan’s blog? Don’t diss on me until you have. I wasn’t translating the two topics listed above as “I hate George Bush” posts. There are plenty of “I hate Bush” posts, but I was making a total case for the blog “The Good Democrat” being mostly political. |
Dan (and Mark), I am a dweeb. I guess, knowing the content of both blogs and realizing which one I went to, you can see my confusion. I didn’t even know you had a family blog. Obviously I missed something. I quite enjoy those family blogs and pictures of children. Sorry, Dan, I suck. I like your family blog better. However, you have raised my consciousness re torture and the Patriot Act. You’ve made me sit up and pay more attention. Well, I like the happy medium of both your blogs. |
The greatest thing about 2004 is that it forever removed the only reasonably interesting thing about the Red Sox – the so-called Curse. Now, they are just another team, like the Diamondbacks or Angels or Marlins. And, they will remain the highest payroll to win a World Series (just because the Yankees do it, and do it poorly, doesn’t make it right). The Red Sox are ruining baseball, and thanks to the 2004 WS win, no one has to give a crap about them anymore. [Now THAT's stirring up acrimonious discussion.] |
queuno, nothing you say can destroy the joy I take in knowing this fact: The 2004 Steinbrenner Yankees are the highest payroll team to ever LOSE a world series. |
The Red Sox are ruining baseball, and thanks to the 2004 WS win, no one has to give a crap about them anymore. Truer words were never spoken. Annegb-Jaime rocks. I hope she posts on here more often. Dan has a lovely family. He gets a little carried away on that political blog sometimes, but he has been constrained lately on his political blog–and has been checking himself. You should check it out from time to time. |
uh only if you’re a crazed Yankees fan. And seeing from last summer’s season, no, the Redsox are not suddenly “just another team.” Their rivalry with the Yankees still remains the biggest sell in baseball today, especially now that they are winning, meanwhile, it has been now seven long years since the Yanks won and that a sweep against the hapless Mets. |
I heard the phrase “crazed Yankees fan.” Am I needed for anything? |
uh only if you’re a crazed Yankees fan. I compliment him and his family, and that’s all he’s got? crazed yankees fan–ouch, that hurts dan. Right to the very core. Except not really. I’m a Yankees fan, we’re used to the abuse by all the other jealous baseball fans. Actually Dan, the Yankees are the biggest sell in baseball today. They sell-out regularly in every venue they play through out the country. The Red Sox are doing pretty well also in venues across the country. Seven years ago—who were you rooting for Dan? ;) (You don’t have to answer it, its just a playful jab). The hapless Mets—hapless? Um, I seem to recall the Mets making the playoffs last years. Now, where were those Red Soxs? As far as the Red Sox…they have a good team this year. Let April begin!!! |
Danite–you’re a fan of the Yanks? sweet. I think I was the “crazed” Yankees fan he was targeting. I consider the crazed a term of endearment coming from Dan. It’s sweet, really. |
