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Throughout history there have been reports of physical influences that Satan has, not only on our bodies, but on our surroundings. I am sure that those possessed of devils in the scriptures felt ill (the young man who threw himself into the fire comes to mind). I’m sure that Joseph Smith did not feel well when the thick darkness gathered around him before the first vision. I feel confident in saying the Satan has a power to influence, but not control our physical bodies. Whether or not he can give us an infection, I am not sure. Hope you are feeling better and are able to become Endowed soon. |
PDOE, Bill and I used to fight every single time we were going to the temple, mostly resulting in our cancelling our trip. Then we decided that no matter what, we would go, even if we were headed to divorce court the next day. And now we don’t fight when we go to the temple. I think Satan tries to get us not to go to the temple. |
I have no idea what the mechanism is, or if “the devil made me do it” (or not do it) is ever really true, but I do know that the most important things I’ve been involved with in my life have included the most opposition. I remember telling someone a few years ago, “I’m nervous that things are going so smoothly. With this particular project, things NEVER go smoothly.” He smiled and seemed quite unconcerned. Two months later he called me and reminded me of my words, then informed me that the entire project had gotten pulled. (We resurrected what we could.) |
I think Satan can have an effect on the physical body. How much, I don’t know, but I’ve seen and heard enough stories to make it seem plausible. Funnily enough, my mom got a severe inner ear infection about a week or two prior to going to the temple to take out her endowments. The resulting vertigo she had made it so she couldn’t stand or even walk. She wasn’t able to drive herself anywhere. In the end, she waited until she was well enough to stand and walk, but she went ahead with it anyway, although she unfortunately had a very dizzy and unpleasant endowment session. (She’s now a regular temple worker and loves it, but her first time was really a trial for her). I didn’t have any physical reaction to when I took out my endowments, but I was overcome with an irrational fear all the way leading up to even asking for a temple recommend. I think Satan definitely puts major obstacles in our way. Good luck in going to the temple. I went after I was married already for 14 years, and I was worried it would affect my marriage in some way, but the result has been fine. Get that ear infection cleared up and set the date! Much love! |
Meems, I could hug you. My biggest worry about this whole thing is how it will affect my marriage. My husband isn’t LDS. He’s very supportive of me but there are some things he has reservations about. He won’t stop me from going but it’s still hard to do something that I know will cause him discomfort. |
I think Satan can affect our physical bodies, but only insofar as God allows it. I doubt God would allow it to the point where we could not keep His commandments. Look at Job – Satan affected a great deal more than his physical body. (And lest you say the story of Job is allegorical, I will clarify – Satan can certainly effect things that will affect your physical body. Look at war, sex crimes, etc. It’s all a matter of how his influence affects it.) Hope that was confusing enough. |
why would God allow Satan to intervene with Anyone? Thoughts preceed actions. “Our life is shaped by our mind; we become what we think. Suffering follows an evil thought as the wheels of a cart follow the oxen that draws it. Our life is shaped by our mind; we become what we think. Joy follows a pure thought like a shadow that never leaves.” Buddah |
Whether it’s a natural obstacle or Satan, what’s key not letting it trip things up. I second everything that meems said. I hope you have a beautiful experience. |
since everything else has been said (i echo meems and not just because you want to hug her)… the wife of my former singles branch president would like to remind you that it’s endowment, singular, just one and that you RECEIVE something that sacred, you don’t just “get” it. i’ll leave her snotty tone out, though. she was so harsh in telling me that, almost a decade ago, that i kind of huffed internally and wanted to discard her tirade. years later, i am reminded of it frequently (most people say “get endowments” like i did) and, having received my endowment in the interim, understand why “get” rubbed her the wrong way. separately, the night before our sealing, my (lds) mother-in-law (who’d always wanted to see any of her inactive kids go to the temple) threw a temper tantrum, caused a huuuuge fight, screamed and shouted, and tried to tell my husband he should be visiting a divorce attorney and not the temple. it makes me laugh when people talk about satan interrupting temple plans or the likes because, well, the description kind of fits, ha! after only two hours of sleep and with ridiculously red puffy eyes, i kneeled at an altar with my husband. i’m sure his mother was thrilled that it would now take more that just an attorney to get rid of me. |
If we understand the epoch of Job then we understand the extent that Satan can have in our lives, even though we are righteous. We tend to use words and phrases that can give the wrong impression. For example, no one ever speaks of being “possessed†by the Holy Ghost? Why is the word possessed used? There are, in essence two kinds of spirits, righteous spirits of G-d and unclean spirits of Satan. Every thing we do prompts the influence of one spirit or the other. There is never a time when we are not being influenced by one kind of spirit or another kind of spirit. That which entices us unto Christ, to believe in him and to love the things of G-d comes of the “Holy†spirit all that does not entice us unto Christ is not of G-d but of “unclean†origins. It is not that the “Devil†makes us do anything but he does invite us and many think that in the beginning that such an invitation is not all that bad. It never starts out “badâ€. jonathan m |
[...] This spring I determined to take out my Endowments. Life promptly got complicated. As I may have mentioned elsewhere, my husband is Catholic. Also to the point, he has never been Mormon. The garments have never been a part of his life. I was proposing to make them so and I knew this would have to be handled with care. [...] |