Comments on: American Experience: The Mormons http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm Thoughts and Asides by Peculiar People Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:55:06 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PBS The Mormons--A Compendium « Messenger and Advocate http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25417 PBS The Mormons--A Compendium « Messenger and Advocate Wed, 02 May 2007 05:21:12 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25417 [...] Mentality Frontline: The Mormons A wannabe’s reaction to The Mormons American Experience: The Mormons The PBS [...] [...] Mentality Frontline: The Mormons A wannabe’s reaction to The Mormons American Experience: The Mormons The PBS [...]

]]> By: Clark http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25341 Clark Tue, 01 May 2007 22:43:00 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25341 I suspect the bit about dancing, like polygamy and MMM, was due to one of the few things folks know about us. Last year's So You Think You Can Dance had a real disproportionate number of Mormons and I suspect folks were curious. Say what you will, but I do think we focus on dance more than most places. No one I've talked to at any other college take dance like BYU. But taking dance at BYU is far more common than taking science. I suspect the bit about dancing, like polygamy and MMM, was due to one of the few things folks know about us. Last year’s So You Think You Can Dance had a real disproportionate number of Mormons and I suspect folks were curious. Say what you will, but I do think we focus on dance more than most places. No one I’ve talked to at any other college take dance like BYU. But taking dance at BYU is far more common than taking science.

]]> By: KyleM http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25321 KyleM Tue, 01 May 2007 20:07:04 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25321 Didn't you all have dance festivals growing up? I only remember one, but we rented the Tacoma Dome and had stake participation from all over the area. It was dumb, but the old people seemed to like it. Didn’t you all have dance festivals growing up? I only remember one, but we rented the Tacoma Dome and had stake participation from all over the area. It was dumb, but the old people seemed to like it.

]]> By: Times & Seasons » Mormons discussing “Mormons” http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25311 Times & Seasons » Mormons discussing “Mormons” Tue, 01 May 2007 19:48:54 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25311 [...] this thread aren’t enough for you, there are discussions of “The Mormons” up at Mormon Mentality, Mor-Mormon Mentality, Faith Promoting Rumor, Feminist Mormon Housewives, Dave’s Mormon [...] [...] this thread aren’t enough for you, there are discussions of “The Mormons” up at Mormon Mentality, Mor-Mormon Mentality, Faith Promoting Rumor, Feminist Mormon Housewives, Dave’s Mormon [...]

]]> By: Ben There http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25306 Ben There Tue, 01 May 2007 19:34:47 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25306 Re: 69, RJ: I am aware of BYU's dancing program, having attended that fine institution of higher learning. My comment about the youth dances being the only remaining vestige was made in jest. My apologies :) Re: 69, RJ: I am aware of BYU’s dancing program, having attended that fine institution of higher learning. My comment about the youth dances being the only remaining vestige was made in jest. My apologies :)

]]> By: BenJ http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25305 BenJ Tue, 01 May 2007 19:31:05 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25305 Looking forward to tonight. All good comments. Looking forward to tonight. All good comments.

]]> By: Justin http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25298 Justin Tue, 01 May 2007 19:11:06 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25298 <i>You know, I woke up this morning and thought, "I bet Justin over at Mormon Wasp will post on Brigham’s vision of Joseph." I just expected it to be at the Wasp and not here.</i> I like to shake things up. You know, I woke up this morning and thought, “I bet Justin over at Mormon Wasp will post on Brigham’s vision of Joseph.” I just expected it to be at the Wasp and not here.

I like to shake things up.

]]> By: a random John http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25297 a random John Tue, 01 May 2007 19:09:02 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25297 Ben There, I think that BYU has a lot of participation in ballroom and a respected dance program. There are some very good dancers in the Church. I had never thought of it as connected to the pioneer heritage until I saw the program. I'm not sure if the connection is really there or not but I thought it was interesting. Ben There,

I think that BYU has a lot of participation in ballroom and a respected dance program. There are some very good dancers in the Church. I had never thought of it as connected to the pioneer heritage until I saw the program. I’m not sure if the connection is really there or not but I thought it was interesting.

]]> By: Justin http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25296 Justin Tue, 01 May 2007 19:08:56 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25296 #57: Matt, I don't have Bagley's book handy, but I remember some basic points: After taking leadership of the church as president of the Twelve, BY struggled to understand his role as prophet. Young had not had the type of spiritual experiences that Joseph Smith had, i.e., speaking with the Lord, visions, etc. There was the question of how Young could lead the church if he couldn't/didn't have these types of experiences. According to Bagley, Young's dreams settled his doubts about his role as Joseph Smith's successor. I recall that Bagley also quotes some of the remarks made by BY regarding his position vis-à-vis Smith, as noted by Kyle M. in comment #60. For example, when sustained as Prophet, Seer, and Revelator in 1857, BY said that the title "always made me feel as though I am called more than I am deserving of. I am Brigham Young, an Apostle of Joseph Smith, and also of Jesus Christ." He also said: "I don't profess to be such a Prophet as were Joseph Smith and Daniel; but I am a Yankee guesser." #57:

Matt, I don’t have Bagley’s book handy, but I remember some basic points:

After taking leadership of the church as president of the Twelve, BY struggled to understand his role as prophet.
Young had not had the type of spiritual experiences that Joseph Smith had, i.e., speaking with the Lord, visions, etc. There was the question of how Young could lead the church if he couldn’t/didn’t have these types of experiences.

According to Bagley, Young’s dreams settled his doubts about his role as Joseph Smith’s successor.

I recall that Bagley also quotes some of the remarks made by BY regarding his position vis-à-vis Smith, as noted by Kyle M. in comment #60.

For example, when sustained as Prophet, Seer, and Revelator in 1857, BY said that the title “always made me feel as though I am called more than I am deserving of. I am Brigham Young, an Apostle of Joseph Smith, and also of Jesus Christ.” He also said: “I don’t profess to be such a Prophet as were Joseph Smith and Daniel; but I am a Yankee guesser.”

]]> By: Ben There http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25293 Ben There Tue, 01 May 2007 18:55:23 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/04/30/american-experience-the-mormons.htm#comment-25293 Re 51: Dances used to be held in the temples during the early years. Dancing was one of the most favorite recreational activities the saints engaged in while in camp along the trail. Dancing does have a fine heritage in Mormon history, even if the only remaining vestige is our current cheesy youth dances :) Re 51: Dances used to be held in the temples during the early years. Dancing was one of the most favorite recreational activities the saints engaged in while in camp along the trail. Dancing does have a fine heritage in Mormon history, even if the only remaining vestige is our current cheesy youth dances :)

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