Comments on: Frontline: The Mormons http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm Thoughts and Asides by Peculiar People Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:55:06 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Matt B http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25664 Matt B Fri, 04 May 2007 03:54:06 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25664 Jan - the Taylor speech Gray quoted is in the Journal of Discourses, volume 22, page 297. Unfortunately, this is only one example of this sort of rhetoric; there's quite a bit more if you look for it. Jan – the Taylor speech Gray quoted is in the Journal of Discourses, volume 22, page 297. Unfortunately, this is only one example of this sort of rhetoric; there’s quite a bit more if you look for it.

]]> By: Jan Iverson http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25653 Jan Iverson Thu, 03 May 2007 23:43:23 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25653 I would like to know "chapter and verse" of Darius Gray's comment about John Taylor. I have a lot of church books and cannot find that quote in any of them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or is this just "forklore", handed down by work of mouth? I would like to know “chapter and verse” of Darius Gray’s comment about John Taylor. I have a lot of church books and cannot find that quote in any of them. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or is this just “forklore”, handed down by work of mouth?

]]> By: Mbogo http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25617 Mbogo Thu, 03 May 2007 15:08:25 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25617 ddb9, The contention that Mormons take more SSRIs than others has been around for a while. I'm curious as to where this idea originated/was studied/was refuted/corroborated/etc. Where should I start on this topic? (I apologize if this has been addressed already). ddb9,

The contention that Mormons take more SSRIs than others has been around for a while. I’m curious as to where this idea originated/was studied/was refuted/corroborated/etc. Where should I start on this topic? (I apologize if this has been addressed already).

]]> By: DKL http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25611 DKL Thu, 03 May 2007 14:09:36 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25611 I'm actually glad that the September 6 episode was addressed directly. The party line says that all change in the church is driven by revelation, but, in reality, the changes are generally prompted by outside pressure (one thing that the documentary could probably have emphasized more). Thus, anything that can be done to shed light on actions like those taken against the September 6 is good. I’m actually glad that the September 6 episode was addressed directly. The party line says that all change in the church is driven by revelation, but, in reality, the changes are generally prompted by outside pressure (one thing that the documentary could probably have emphasized more). Thus, anything that can be done to shed light on actions like those taken against the September 6 is good.

]]> By: Tom http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25610 Tom Thu, 03 May 2007 13:54:06 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25610 I forgot drugged-up. I forgot drugged-up.

]]> By: Ann http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25580 Ann Thu, 03 May 2007 03:02:52 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25580 #39 <i>Are we just sailing through life on the backs of our poor, subjugated, overburdened women? </i> Well, yeah. I mean, duh! #39 Are we just sailing through life on the backs of our poor, subjugated, overburdened women?
Well, yeah. I mean, duh!

]]> By: DavidH http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25521 DavidH Wed, 02 May 2007 17:03:38 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25521 "Margaret Toscano’s account of her church court is troubling but also unfair. The stake president is never going to respond." The bishop in Sonia Johnson's case released a public statement about her excommunication in 1979. There is a way for both sides to be told about Margaret's council--the Church, with Margaret's permission, could release the records of the council. My understanding, however, is that those records are not even available for the disciplined member to see. My sense, though, is that Margaret told the truth as best she can recall it about what happened at the council. I suspect the story would still be troubling if the records ever were released or the stake president, with Margaret's permission, were permitted to speak about it from his perspective. “Margaret Toscano’s account of her church court is troubling but also unfair. The stake president is never going to respond.”

The bishop in Sonia Johnson’s case released a public statement about her excommunication in 1979.

There is a way for both sides to be told about Margaret’s council–the Church, with Margaret’s permission, could release the records of the council. My understanding, however, is that those records are not even available for the disciplined member to see.

My sense, though, is that Margaret told the truth as best she can recall it about what happened at the council. I suspect the story would still be troubling if the records ever were released or the stake president, with Margaret’s permission, were permitted to speak about it from his perspective.

]]> By: Tom http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25454 Tom Wed, 02 May 2007 12:28:21 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25454 aRJ, I wasn't really responding to your silliness, I just chimed in because they were being talked about and I know them. That was a great segment. It illustrated very well what belief in eternal families means for us. aRJ,
I wasn’t really responding to your silliness, I just chimed in because they were being talked about and I know them.

That was a great segment. It illustrated very well what belief in eternal families means for us.

]]> By: ddb9 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25429 ddb9 Wed, 02 May 2007 07:23:45 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/01/frontline-the-mormons.htm#comment-25429 I didn't appreciate Whitney using so many marginalized, disaffected, excommunited, antagonistic, or otherwise unassociated people to define who we are. Yes, it is true that LDS do take more SSRI antidepressants than others. But we do not have more depression than others. Depression rates are the same or less within the church as without. And it is much more mild. Mromons just take SSRI's like Prozac instead of taking addicting Xanax, Valium, Percocet or self medicate with alcohol and cigarettes. I didn’t appreciate Whitney using so many marginalized, disaffected, excommunited, antagonistic, or otherwise unassociated people to define who we are.

Yes, it is true that LDS do take more SSRI antidepressants than others. But we do not have more depression than others. Depression rates are the same or less within the church as without. And it is much more mild. Mromons just take SSRI’s like Prozac instead of taking addicting Xanax, Valium, Percocet or self medicate with alcohol and cigarettes.

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