Comments on: J. Earl Carter to G. W. Bush: You’re Worse than I Was http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm Thoughts and Asides by Peculiar People Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:54:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dan http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-3#comment-28223 Dan Tue, 22 May 2007 17:22:25 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28223 sorry, I did mean it to be light-hearted. sorry, I did mean it to be light-hearted.

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-3#comment-28213 Seth R. Tue, 22 May 2007 17:00:35 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28213 Don't be childish Dan. Or at least put one of those silly little =) behind the post. Don’t be childish Dan. Or at least put one of those silly little =) behind the post.

]]> By: Dan http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28202 Dan Tue, 22 May 2007 16:35:08 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28202 <blockquote>The point of this post was to attack Carter, not defend Bush. Defending Bush’s foreign policy isn’t something that interests me today.</blockquote> Awww, poor DKL, doesn't like to be on the defensive.

The point of this post was to attack Carter, not defend Bush. Defending Bush’s foreign policy isn’t something that interests me today.

Awww, poor DKL, doesn’t like to be on the defensive.

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28184 Chino Blanco Tue, 22 May 2007 15:12:50 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28184 OK, I guess I just figured it would've made for a stronger ending if an assertion like <i>Bush may not be another Thatcher or another Reagan, but at least he’s not another Carter</i> could've been supported by at least one example that might answer the obvious question: why not? OK, I guess I just figured it would’ve made for a stronger ending if an assertion like

Bush may not be another Thatcher or another Reagan, but at least he’s not another Carter

could’ve been supported by at least one example that might answer the obvious question: why not?

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28181 Seth R. Tue, 22 May 2007 14:57:26 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28181 Oh come on DKL, It's ALWAYS a good day for a Bush rant! Oh come on DKL,

It’s ALWAYS a good day for a Bush rant!

]]> By: DKL http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28180 DKL Tue, 22 May 2007 14:53:15 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28180 The point of this post was to attack Carter, not defend Bush. Defending Bush's foreign policy isn't something that interests me today. The point of this post was to attack Carter, not defend Bush. Defending Bush’s foreign policy isn’t something that interests me today.

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28178 Chino Blanco Tue, 22 May 2007 14:16:36 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28178 Will there be a defense forthcoming of Bush's foreign policy? Or is it juvenile and impertinent to ask? Will there be a defense forthcoming of Bush’s foreign policy?

Or is it juvenile and impertinent to ask?

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28176 Chino Blanco Tue, 22 May 2007 14:07:33 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28176 Danithew, I think that our policy toward Iran has to be informed by our awareness of that well-placed sense of Iranian national identity that you've correctly noted. I also think we have a clear enough understanding of Iran's internal dynamics to allow us to engage productively with whatever regime may be in power. I also think we've tended to view setbacks as challenges to be resolved within the timeframe of the 4-year American political cycle. If we don't get what we want within that timeframe, the various partisan noise machines rev into action. I also think you're correct that Iraq and Iran could not be more different in terms of their histories and the very different challenges these present us with. Danithew,

I think that our policy toward Iran has to be informed by our awareness of that well-placed sense of Iranian national identity that you’ve correctly noted. I also think we have a clear enough understanding of Iran’s internal dynamics to allow us to engage productively with whatever regime may be in power. I also think we’ve tended to view setbacks as challenges to be resolved within the timeframe of the 4-year American political cycle. If we don’t get what we want within that timeframe, the various partisan noise machines rev into action. I also think you’re correct that Iraq and Iran could not be more different in terms of their histories and the very different challenges these present us with.

]]> By: Dan http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28175 Dan Tue, 22 May 2007 14:04:25 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28175 DKL, <blockquote>The chief executive is nothing like a monarch.</blockquote> And neither is the Iranian president like a monarch. Good try though, DKL. DKL,

The chief executive is nothing like a monarch.

And neither is the Iranian president like a monarch. Good try though, DKL.

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm/comment-page-2#comment-28169 Chino Blanco Tue, 22 May 2007 13:45:29 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/05/20/j-earl-carter-to-g-w-bush-youre-worse-than-i-was.htm#comment-28169 DKL, I operate from the assumption that the regime’s conservatives realize that a rapprochement with the US will inevitably mean a diminution, if not end, to their power. As far as I can tell, your approach does nothing to get us any closer to a rapprochement that I believe is in our own self-interest. If I'm wrong about seeking such a rapprochement, I'd be happy to be enlightened. On the other hand, if we happen to agree that rapprochement is a worthy objective, than please show me how I'm mistaken in finding nothing in our current foreign policy that gets us there from here. I'd humbly submit that you invited the comparison between Ahmedinejhad and Bush when you suggested that one of the madman's defects included a weak resume. Tehran is a metropolis of 14 million. DKL,

I operate from the assumption that the regime’s conservatives realize that a rapprochement with the US will inevitably mean a diminution, if not end, to their power.

As far as I can tell, your approach does nothing to get us any closer to a rapprochement that I believe is in our own self-interest.

If I’m wrong about seeking such a rapprochement, I’d be happy to be enlightened.

On the other hand, if we happen to agree that rapprochement is a worthy objective, than please show me how I’m mistaken in finding nothing in our current foreign policy that gets us there from here.

I’d humbly submit that you invited the comparison between Ahmedinejhad and Bush when you suggested that one of the madman’s defects included a weak resume.

Tehran is a metropolis of 14 million.

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