Comments on: Network Marketers and Their Special Place in Hell http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm Thoughts and Asides by Peculiar People Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:49:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-92707 Anonymous Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:59:27 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-92707 <strong>...</strong> In multi- level marketing, your profits will depend on the number of people you have recruited to join the program. Profits are generated through sales and referrals, so you have to get more people to know about your program. This is just the first ste... …

In multi- level marketing, your profits will depend on the number of people you have recruited to join the program. Profits are generated through sales and referrals, so you have to get more people to know about your program. This is just the first ste…

]]> By: KyleM http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35721 KyleM Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:43:18 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35721 I have an annecdote for that thread if you do. The transformation is really interesting. I have an annecdote for that thread if you do. The transformation is really interesting.

]]> By: John Williams http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35720 John Williams Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:37:53 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35720 danithew, Maybe you just found the topic of your next post. danithew,

Maybe you just found the topic of your next post.

]]> By: danithew http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35718 danithew Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:32:52 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35718 <i>Then he was called into the Bishopric and suddenly, magically his weekly sales/con job meetings disappeared allowing him to attend weekly bishopric meetings that were held the same time as the YM nights he routinely skipped to hustle more MLM rubes.</i> It's interesting how a person can undergo personality/behavioral changes when called into a bishopbric. I can't say it's something I've seen that often - but I do have one dramatic example in mind. Having said that, it's probably good that a person suddenly feels a need to be more responsible or to be a better person - but it's nicer if a person makes those vital changes <i>before</i> being called into some kind of high-and-holy calling. But I guess this is material for another type of thread. Sorry - that quoted comment got me thinking a little bit is all. Then he was called into the Bishopric and suddenly, magically his weekly sales/con job meetings disappeared allowing him to attend weekly bishopric meetings that were held the same time as the YM nights he routinely skipped to hustle more MLM rubes.

It’s interesting how a person can undergo personality/behavioral changes when called into a bishopbric. I can’t say it’s something I’ve seen that often – but I do have one dramatic example in mind.

Having said that, it’s probably good that a person suddenly feels a need to be more responsible or to be a better person – but it’s nicer if a person makes those vital changes before being called into some kind of high-and-holy calling.

But I guess this is material for another type of thread. Sorry – that quoted comment got me thinking a little bit is all.

]]> By: rbc http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35717 rbc Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:17:42 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35717 Over the course of about two years I was approached by three different people who used the same opening line, "Don't I know you from somewhere?" After trading a little bit of biographical information back and forth, they then brought out the hook, usually related to some little bit of information I've disclosed, and ask if I want to learn about a "business opportunity" which turns out to be Amway. I've been hit up like this on a playground with my kids, in a bookstore and in an airport. To the next person who asks the question, I'll respond with a question, "Are you part of Amway or any other MLM like unto it?" If the answer is yes-end of conversation. As a YM president, I was once given a first counselor who was heavy into MLM. His weekly sales/con job meetings conflicted with YM nights so he never attended; taught good lessons on Sunday, though. Then he was called into the Bishopric and suddenly, magically his weekly sales/con job meetings disappeared allowing him to attend weekly bishopric meetings that were held the same time as the YM nights he routinely skipped to hustle more MLM rubes. I wonder how his calendar suddenly opened up? Over the course of about two years I was approached by three different people who used the same opening line, “Don’t I know you from somewhere?” After trading a little bit of biographical information back and forth, they then brought out the hook, usually related to some little bit of information I’ve disclosed, and ask if I want to learn about a “business opportunity” which turns out to be Amway. I’ve been hit up like this on a playground with my kids, in a bookstore and in an airport. To the next person who asks the question, I’ll respond with a question, “Are you part of Amway or any other MLM like unto it?” If the answer is yes-end of conversation.

As a YM president, I was once given a first counselor who was heavy into MLM. His weekly sales/con job meetings conflicted with YM nights so he never attended; taught good lessons on Sunday, though. Then he was called into the Bishopric and suddenly, magically his weekly sales/con job meetings disappeared allowing him to attend weekly bishopric meetings that were held the same time as the YM nights he routinely skipped to hustle more MLM rubes. I wonder how his calendar suddenly opened up?

]]> By: Ben There http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35656 Ben There Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:19:11 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35656 56 Dan: You are spot on. This is one of the tactics they learn in their training CDs they subscribe to and listen to over and over. No joke. A friend suggested I listen to a CD one time, and it was something like "maximizing your potential". Well, the full title should have been "Maximizing Your Downline Potential By Trapping Friends and Relatives." It was actually about effective recruitment techniques. I told my friend that I didn't find it particularly enlightning. I don't even think he realizes what CD he gave me. Anytime I hear "business consultant" I want to kick whoever is talking. 56 Dan: You are spot on. This is one of the tactics they learn in their training CDs they subscribe to and listen to over and over. No joke. A friend suggested I listen to a CD one time, and it was something like “maximizing your potential”. Well, the full title should have been “Maximizing Your Downline Potential By Trapping Friends and Relatives.” It was actually about effective recruitment techniques. I told my friend that I didn’t find it particularly enlightning. I don’t even think he realizes what CD he gave me.

Anytime I hear “business consultant” I want to kick whoever is talking.

]]> By: danithew http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35629 danithew Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:54:09 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35629 Kyle, I think they offer rides to people for just that reason - they know when you hear the word Amway it might send you running for the door. Kyle, I think they offer rides to people for just that reason – they know when you hear the word Amway it might send you running for the door.

]]> By: KyleM http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35623 KyleM Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:30:55 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35623 I was invited to attend a meeting of local business consultants. The guy who invited me picked me up so we could car pool. It turned out to be an Amway pitch in some dude's basement. I think we carpooled so I couldn't walk out. They weren't Mormons, though. Let alone Utah Mormons. Maybe that's why I let my guard down. ;-) I was invited to attend a meeting of local business consultants. The guy who invited me picked me up so we could car pool. It turned out to be an Amway pitch in some dude’s basement. I think we carpooled so I couldn’t walk out. They weren’t Mormons, though. Let alone Utah Mormons. Maybe that’s why I let my guard down. ;-)

]]> By: Ben There http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35610 Ben There Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:10:12 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35610 Anne, It's not so much that we can't so "no" in a friendly way, it's that we don't care much for their "ambush" tactics. We find that offensive. If these people would just say, "Hi, I'm Andy and I sell Amway, and I'd like to tell you how you can too", I'd have no problem. But when they ambush you or trap you, that is highly offensive, no matter that we can back out, we've already had our time wasted and our intelligences insulted. Anne, It’s not so much that we can’t so “no” in a friendly way, it’s that we don’t care much for their “ambush” tactics. We find that offensive. If these people would just say, “Hi, I’m Andy and I sell Amway, and I’d like to tell you how you can too”, I’d have no problem. But when they ambush you or trap you, that is highly offensive, no matter that we can back out, we’ve already had our time wasted and our intelligences insulted.

]]> By: KyleM http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm/comment-page-2#comment-35598 KyleM Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:20:12 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/2007/06/19/network-marketers-and-their-special-place-in-hell.htm#comment-35598 52. The cycle can stop. You just have to want to stop it. Maybe a support group would help. 52. The cycle can stop. You just have to want to stop it. Maybe a support group would help.

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