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If only there were a way to similiarly clarify our inner seeing. Congrats on the new eyes. |
Wow. Sounds great. I imagine it costs a bit – but for your eyesight to get that much better, no doubt it is very worth it. |
I want this done, but I’m totally freaked out at the idea of being able to actually SEE what they are doing. My eyeballs water just thinking about it- dish on how this was for you. Could you SEE them cutting you? |
maybe if I am a good girl and save up all of my allowance, I too can one day chuck my glasses. |
DKL, you might consider donating your old glasses to the Lions Club. I had the LASIK procedure performed several years ago. Nice to be able to see without glasses or contacts. |
I’m with tracy m. Due to some unfortunate childhood incidents, I basically freak when someone or something comes close to my eyes. I can’t even handle trying to put contact lenses in. Like tracy, my eyes start to water and my anxiety level begins to rise, even thinking about it. I’d love to get this done, but as far as I can tell, they’d have to give me some serious drugs to get through it, and they don’t do that. |
My wife had this done a couple years ago. She loves it, though she still can’t see as well as I can. Kinda frustrating to pay that much money and still not be able to see perfectly. |
My wife had her eyes fixed in the DC area recently, and she had a similarly great experience. It is a lot of money, but we figured the procedure would be cheaper the sooner we did it, since it would allow her to save time and money sooner on her contacts and maintenance. |
rusty you got me thinking about my husband. he’s in the same line of work as you and he’s a FREAK!!!! about his eyes (and hands of course) you guys got it good! |
Do these procedures arrest deteriating vision? Will laser-perfected vision need retrimming in 15 years? |
Add my testimony to the mix—I had Lasik about a year ago and am surprised at how well-worth-the-money I feel it was (but, then, I’ve been known to misplace my glasses several times a day, and have to buy new ones after sitting on them once every couple years or so…). |
For those really interested in the gory details, here’s a blow by blow Before the operation When I made the appointment about a month before-hand, they told me to stop wearing my disposable contacts at least one week before the eyeball exam appointment, which was set for Tuesday, July 18th. The surgery was tentatively scheduled for Friday, July 20th, provided that everything in the eyeball exam indicated that I was a good candidate for LASIK. The Tuesday, July 20th, I went to the doctor’s office to have an eyeball exam. They made a map of my eyeballs, dilated my pupils, showed me all the eyeball charts to verify my prescription, measured the size of my pupils, gave me a glaucoma tests, and did a few other things. They told me that I was a good candidate. They gave me anti-biotic drops to use 4 times daily until the day of the surgery. Before I left, they gave me a packet containing all the documents that they’d want me to sign before I had the surgery so I could read them at my leisure before I signed them. They told me to come back Friday morning at 10:30 AM. The morning of the operation Friday morning, July 20th, I caught a cab to get to the doctor’s office for my 10:30 AM appointment. When I arrived, there were a few other people there to get surgery. I sat with one of the doctor’s assistants, signed the release forms, and paid for the procedure. At 11:00 AM, they invited me to sit alone in this quite room with a very comfortable chair and a fountain. They called this, “The relaxation room.” It worked. It was very relaxing. I sat there for about 30 minutes. A woman came in, introduced herself as the laser technician, gave me some Xanax, and gave me a blue surgical cap to cover my hair. (For those with eyeball anxiety, my guess is that one could get 2 Xanax if she feared that anxiety would be a big problem.) At 11:30 AM, I went into the room where they do the procedure, where I saw my eyeball doctor, who I’ve known for close to 10 years now. The operation First, they cut the flap. My doctor uses a laser to cut the flap, so I’m describing the procedure that uses an Intralase machine, not the kind that uses a disposable razor blade. I sat down in a reclining position (same as a fully-reclined dentist chair). They gave me a Nerf football to hold during the procedure. For each eyeball, the doctor did the following:
This procedure left my eyeballs seeing things kind of hazy as though there were petroleum jelly in them. Once they finished cutting the flap in both eyeballs, I sat up, and they helped me to the machine that vaporizes the corneal stroma tissue to actually fix my vision. The doctor and the laser technician then performed the following steps for each eyeball:
When both eyeballs were done, I sat up and put down the Nerf football. The doctor pointed to a clock on the wall and asked me if I could read the time. I could read it without squinting. It was 11:50 AM. Before the operation, I wouldn’t have been able to read it without my glasses or contacts. The doctor took me into another room where he could look at my eyeballs with a magnifying glass. When he finished reiterating the instructions that I’d received in writing, he said that he’d see me in the next morning. The doctor was really great, but there’s no getting around the fact that much of the procedure is just plain unpleasant. Thankfully, the unpleasant part amounts to only about 10 minutes. And it’s really not that bad. It’s not like the procedure is actually painful. Immediately following the procedure, my eyeballs burned very badly — as though I’d touched them directly to the surface of the sun. It hurt to blink, and they teared like crazy. So I sat in the doctor’s office with my eyeballs closed, until one of the assistants told me that the cab I’d arranged to drive me home had arrived. After the operation The instructions said to go to sleep for 4 to 6 hours when I got home, but my eyeballs hurt too badly to sleep. So I took some NyQIL and some percocet, and that did the trick. When I woke up about 6 hours later, my eyeballs felt fine. The first day, I wore sunglasses all day to protect my eyeballs (as instructed). The next day, Saturday morning, July 21st, I drove myself the follow-up appointment, and the doctor told me that I now have 20/20 vision. My eyeballs hurt again Sunday morning, probably because I spent much of Saturday reading, and I was supposed to go light on that kind of thing the first few days. But since then, it’s been a breeze. I’ve got 3 drops that I’ve used 4 times daily over the past week: a topical steroid to prevent inflammation, a preventative anti-biotic, and an artificial tears solution. Also, for the past week, I’ve worn eyeball-shields to bed (provided by the doctor) to keep me from rubbing my eyeballs while I sleep. |
Rusty, the newer equipment is more likely to give better results, but the largest risk for anyone getting LASIK is that there eyesight will be less than 20/20. My doctor reports that under his care and with his equipment, 93% of his patients with my level of near-sightedness end up with 20/20 vision. John, the results of LASIK surgery are an optical correction of the eye, by changing the refractive properties of the cornea to make sure that it focuses light properly onto the retina. It does not arrest changes that naturally occur over time to the eye. So the answer is this, if your eye was going to change anyway, it will alse change after LASIK. My understanding is that the eyeballs of most adults don’t change much after about 30. Nick and Tracy, just have the doctor give you more sedative. I don’t think that there’s anyone so tense that enough drugs can’t chill them. Brian D, donating my glasses to the Lions is a good idea. I didn’t know it was possible. I’ll pull them out of the trash. Dan Ellsworth and Robert C., now that I’ve gotten it done, I wish I’d have done it sooner, too. |
So what does it cost? |
Yes, I would like to know also. My husband has been thinking about having it done. |
Prices vary very, very wildly, as do the prices to replace your lenses (as you get ‘old eyes’ and cataracts). |
Ok, just reading your description, my eyes are burning and tearing. I’m afraid I would require about 2 dozen Zanax!! But thanks! |
My understanding is that if you currently need bifocals (such as due to presbyopia, “old eyes”) that Lasik surgery will not totally eliminate your need for glasses. You then have to choose which sight you want, far or near, and the doctor operates for that focal length, and then you need glasses for the opposite. A bifocal-wearing desk jockey may choose to get surgery to correct his near vision, then wear glasses for far vision. A bifocal-wearing pilot may choose to get surgery to correct his far vision, and then wear glasses for near vision, such as half-glasses or “readers”. I needed “readers” when I hit forty, and the off-the-shelf kind worked for a while. But then my left and right eyes needed different correction, plus I needed bi-focals, so I had to finally bite the bullet and get prescription glasses. If any of you get bifocals, go for the “no line” bifocals which have a continuous transition or gradient between near and far vision. Your eyes and neck-tilt will then learn to automatically adjust. I like them much better than the binary on/off nature of the half-glass “readers”, or the sharp near-versus-far division of traditional bifocals. |
A co-worker was very excited about getting his eyes fixed. He had dozens of friends do it, and they all loved it, and swore by it. His eyes no longer produce tears. His vision will not be correctable beyond 20/40. The people who did his surgery have said there’s nothing they can do and that sometimes, “it happens.” I read a bunch of case studies of people who had gastric bypass surgery. Most of them were just fine. But one guy had a stroke. At 35. A STROKE. I’m a coward. No way anybody’s coming near my eyes with a laser. I’m pushing 50. I’ve worn glasses since I was eight years old. The glasses don’t bother me, and I produce tears nicely. I realize that 9999 times out of 10000, everything is just great. But that one person that has a problem won’t be me, because I won’t be doing it. I’m glad it worked out for you DKL. |
DKL, how bad were your eyes before you had this done? I’ve been scared because I’m very near-sighted. |
Eric, prices vary, but I would chose the surgeon independent of price. I personally don’t think it’s a great idea to go with a “bargain” doctor when it comes to vaporizing eye tissue. That said, it costs in the thousands of dollars, which includes all follow up. But don’t go to Canada. American citizens cannot sue Canadian doctors if something goes wrong. There’s an element of accountability that goes along with the increased price of American doctors. Bookslinger, you are correct. I’ll eventually need reading glasses just like everyone else. Even then, I won’t need lenses for seeing distance. “Presbyopia” is the term for age-induced need for magnification at close distances, and it is different from myopia. Currently, there is no real cure for this. I’m not an eye doctor, but I understand that lens replacement can fix it, but that’s only for people with cataracts — it is far too invasive a procedure to be justified by the desire to get rid of reading glasses. Ann, you’re right that there are risks. Check out, for example, this site. If your doctor doesn’t go over the risks, then find another one. There is the joke that Lucille Ball tells, where the doctor tells her that the chances are good that the surgery will be successful. She responds by saying, “Well, the chances are good that you’ll get paid.” People have different levels of aversion to risk — some people are comfortable investing money in off-shore drilling or gold prospecting and other people get anxious just contemplating the stock market. Paula, I was about 20/110, or -2 diopters, with some slight astigmatism. That’s a pretty standard level of nearsightedness. |
Thanks DKL, I’m about -5.75 in one eye and 8.25 in the other eye, so extremely near sighted. I was told ten years ago to wait for better techniques to develop for very near sighted folks, so maybe it’s time to check. |
One little caveat: |
For those wondering about the cost, mine for both eyes was $3000 (about 18 months ago, in Boise at Restore Vision Center), with free lifetime touchups. My sis and her husband went in together to get theirs done, and my BIL negotiated a lower price. I was so nearsighted and had such astigmatism that I doubted that my eyes could really be fixed. I don’t go into as much detail as DKL does, but my experience is recorded here: http://idahospud.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/i-am-a-disciple-of-the-temple-of-lasik/ |
More details from my experience for those on the fence: I’m in Utah and I think $3000 or so will get you into the top doctors around here. I get pretty serious allergies and was worried about my eyes being dry. If there’s been a change, it’s been very slight. I had -3 to -3.5 in one eye and -2.5 in the other, now I have 20/15 (or is it 15/20? better than 20/20 anyway) in one eye, but the other eye had a little inflammation while healing and I think I’m 20/25 or so in that eye. I did a fair bit of research beforehand (reading up in medical journals and what not), and felt pretty confident that the risks were minimal (I found some stats, but can’t remember exactly where or what the stats were–93% seeing 20/20 seems about right and I’d guess serious complications or negative after-effects occur less than 1% of the time). Also, I think techniques have improved rather dramatically from 10 years ago. Again, I can’t remember the details, but it seems there were some pretty big break throughs about 5 or 6 years ago which made complications much less likely and results much more accurate. Since then, I think prices have been coming down and improvements have been only marginal (though I haven’t really followed any developments in the last year and half or so…). |