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Hear! Hear! I’ve always been tempted to ask a guy that doesn’t flush the toilet if he ever doesn’t flush his toilet at home, and just how stinky does his bathroom get, but then I thought about it more, that that is just simply a conversation I never really want to have with a strange man in a bathroom. |
Oh, and guys, please! If you are going to pee in the sitting toilet instead of the one designed for peeing, please, oh please, lift the seat! Your aim is not really that good, boys! |
I have often lamented the lack of bathroom exhaust fans in some Church bathrooms. Good heavens- if there’s one thing the building designer should not skimp on, it’s the exhaust fans in the bathrooms. |
Why can’t they just have a can of air freshener in there? I bought one and placed it in the mother’s lounge (which was a room you had to hold your breath through on the way to the ladie’s room) because of the “presents” left in the diaper pail. Everyone loved it but I was told it was a no-no, as is a small step stool for the youngn’s trying to reach the water fountain. What’s up with this? |
I travel for business, and am on the road 3 or 4 days a week and always see people in airport and restaurant bathrooms leaving w/o washing their hands. I am always tempted to go up to the girlfriend or group of friends that the germ passer is hanging out with and inform them that they are in the midst of a no-hand-washer. That is one of the few pet peeves that i have. Have you ever noticed that guys always spit in the urinal before starting to use the urinal? just wondering. |
Dan – I hear you on the aim part. We men like to think we are straight shooters, but the reality is we ain’t so good… Dan E – Now exhaust fans is a good idea – sometimes our chapel bathroom looks and smells like a gas station bathroom. I guess the women’s was bad too as my wife would hold it until we got home every week as the bathroom was so bad. Sallygirl – must be in the “handbook” somewhere along with a lot of other silly things ilike – that is how I have felt when I travel. It is gross. As for the spit part – I have noticed that and in fact, I have found myself doing it at times for no explainable reason. |
makin’ sure the drain works, of course. |
For me, the most important aspect of men’s bathroom etiquette is that one choose the urinal or toilet furthest away from the next closest urinator. If I am alone in a bathroom with 10 urinals, and I happen to choose Urinal #4, and then you walk in, please do not choose Urinal #3 or Urinal #5, because it is just going to freak me out. Have some respect for my personal freedom and choose Urinal #10. And the next person that comes in, please choose either Urinal #1 or Urinal #7. Really, all that is required for such calculations are some basic math skills, or an ability to eyeball spatial relationships. |
As for “urine troughs” (which are becoming more and more rare, but can still be found at large venues like baseball parks or concert venues)… Urine Troughs get pretty busy between innings at a baseball game, especially in the late innings on the upper deck after the members of Local Plumbers Union 1451 have consumed their 5th and 6th beers. Hey, you might think you are hung like John Holmes, and can steer your hose inbetween the one foot space that separates me and my 6 year old son, but trust me, you are not. In fact, you aren’t much bigger than my 6 year old son, so either wait until one of us finishes, or take your beer-filled bladder and your pathetic excuse for manhood to the nearest sink or trashcan. It’s gross, but it’s better than being splashed by your bad aim. |
matt, urine trough induced trauma? poor thing. here’s where having to stand in a 20 minute line to pee has it’s advantages. I get my own private stall and I never have to worry about anyone checking out my junk. |
..better yet, I never have to see anyone’s junk. uhhhh! |
urine is sterile. if you showered that morning then if you walk in and out of the bathroom without touching anything but your own necessary plumbing then your own hands remain much cleaner than if you touch the water faucets with who knows what on them… |
The womens’ bathroom of our church is disgusting. I thought the janitor wasn’t keeping it clean enough, so I went over with tons of cleaning supplies to help him clean it better. I learned a hard lesson, he works his tail off. We women of the Enoch Stake are pigs. Baby diapers, garbage, unflushed toilets. Well, more kids use our toilets and they don’t flush. I want to put up a sign “You guys, this toilet is in the Lord’s House. You are pigs. Stop it.” So I make it a point on Sunday to check out the bathroom and straighten things up. I take a nice box of Puffs Plus (the cadillac of tissues) and air freshener and make sure there’s toilet paper and wipe off the sinks and faucets. Not every Sunday because I’m semi-inactive. It’s a secret because it’s my AA do=good thing, so don’t tell. I’m in a power struggle with a woman in another ward who supposedly has allergies to scents. She keeps taking out the air freshener and wonders (I think) who puts it there. I’ve duct taped those things under the toilet where she can’t find them. Now, I’ve sort of repented and just put hospital quality air cleaner in that doesn’t smell. I know there are people who are allergic to scents, but this woman is a pain and makes an issue of everything. It’s about control. And she’s losing. To someone she knows well, but doesn’t know who I am. It’s a small guilty pleasure. |
anne – that is hilarious – at least you are winning the private war. paul – urine is sterile but the urine depositer is not. I still have no interest in being one degree of separation from your unit when I touch what you touch. Please wash your hands… |
devyn- do you use a paper towel to turn off the water faucett? the feces from it’s previous user is worse than the my soap washed plumbing… |
automatic faucets of course :) Funny thing is that I have read a lot of articles that say places like the kitchen at work is dirtier than the bathroom. I guess if we really knew how often we put others peoples body fluids onto our hands and into our mouths it would gross us out. Remember that everytime you smell something that means small particles of that substance have penetrated your nose – makes fans in the restroom important… |
anne: great story. your passive tactics are breathtaking :) |
FMH has nothing on us when it gross discussions. |
paul f: If a person won’t wash their hands, how can we know if they took the shower that morning in the first place. I am with Devyn – people should just wash their hands. (Full disclosure – i do use a paper towel to turn the faucet on and off, and also one to open the bathroom door) |
19) How do you operate when the restroom has blow dryers? |
That is rough – i hate those fecal dust blowers. |
“fecal dust blowers” could be a band name. |
washing hands is generally fine by me…but if i’m in a hurry and walk in to an airport bathroom and know how clean my body is, why wash my hands to make the guy next to me happy? this is starting to sound like avoiding the very appearance of evil…with an ocd twist. |
You know what’s REALLY bad? Temple restrooms, at least in the temple that my wife and I have had the privilege of volunteering to clean on occasion. Holy crap, you would not believe it. One would think one’s aim might improve when in God’s house; or that the women would be a bit less splashy, or even flush when done, knowing that God is likely frowning down on them from His throne. But no, no, no. For the love of all things holy, I implore all of us to please make our bathroom habits just a tad more spotless while in God’s house. We have to take off our shoes; surely we can keep our commodes at least as white as the carpet. |
Fecal dust? Sounds like hydration might be an issue for some folks. Drink more water. And then when you have to pee, aim well. |
Ben There – never thought about that aspect with regards to the Temple. I guess we humans are just slobs and not much different from animals in that regard… |
Did someone just mention temple restrooms, and then say “holy crap” and invoke God on His throne, without even a hint of a pun intended? |
I am currently living in Lagos, Nigeria — a country not known for its cleanliness. When I first got a tour of the church building from the other two American expatriate women in the ward, they warned me to avoid the restroom at all costs. After being here for months, I still consider it a relief and a victory to make it through another Sunday without being forced to use the facilities. We did have a lecture in RS one Sunday from the President scolding the sisters that our toilets were “not of good report.” She said “we are Latter-Day Saint women and we have learned about personal hygiene and we must do better.” Amen to that! |
Beijing – I missed the pun entirely, but if it was intended it was very clever. CW – good to know members of the Church have the disgusting bathroom issue in common across the globe :) |
Beijing and Devyn: Yes, my words were chosen carefully, but the underlying sentiment should not be dimished: namely that temple restrooms stink, literally and figuratively! :) Devyn: Yes, we are a bunch of animals. From our genesis as infants pooping in our diapers, to our potty training days of pooping and peeing all over the place (but at least trying to aim), to our teenage and adult years of taking a whiz wherever we feel the need to, to our old age and back to pooping in diapers, our habits tend to be anything but sanitary. I once knew a guy, a fundamentalist Christian preacher, who told me he could not possibly believe that Adam and Eve, in their unfallen state, had the same bathroom habits as humans do now. He figured that human waste products being what they are could not possibly have been the ideal God intended, and that this must have been one of the side effects of the “fall”. It was the first and final time I ever heard anywork work out a model of bathroom theology. |
Ahh – you are brilliant Ben There – that was quite clever. Yes, the riddle of the sphinx holds true once again. Interesting theory on the bathroom habits of Adam and Eve. I suppose if they were not “mortal” they probably had no reason to eat or, therefore, use the bathroom. |
Devyn: Thank you. I have my moments. I wish I could convince my children I have the ability to appear brilliant, at least once in a while! :-) Do you suppose Apostle Orson Pratt had something to say about the bathroom functions of immortal god-like beings? |
Ben There – good luck on the kids – probably another 20 years until they realize it… Elder Pratt – probably in Journal of Discourses. |
Something that happens frequently at least where I work, where people are nasty, despite it being a very white collar software shop, is when I’m taking care of business and the guy next to me decides it’s necessary to spit in the urinal. GROSS! I already don’t want to shake anyones hand. |
Moose, I work in a white collar profession myself. The gross habits of my coworkers would rival those observed on any construction site. |
“The President dreamed last night that he had occasion to ease himself; he went to a privy, where he was told he had to sit across a pole and ease himself, according to Judge C.E. Sinclair’s ruling. In following the ruling of the Judge, he besmeared himself; he wanted to find some place to clean himself, but could not, for every where he went the women were looking at him.” — Clerk recording Brigham Young’s dream, 17 January 1859 |
You gotta love Brigham Young. Not only were his dreams whacked-out bizarre, but he asked his clerk to record them. Awesome! |
Ardis – not sure what to think of that one except as Ben There said it is classic Brigham Young. |
#8 Matt Thurston: I actually thought about Matt’s post over the weekend, as I stepped up to use the facilities at the local cinema. Now, when it comes right down to it, I have this sneaky suspicion that Matt is “freaked out” because the guy who relieves himself next to Matt just might be a guy like me. (Trust me, Matt…I’m too busy taking care of my own business to watch you do yours.) But here’s the thing. If Matt is so “freaked out,” why would he pick urinal #4 in the first place? If Matt picked urinal #1, he’d substantially reduce his chances of gaining a next-urinal-reliever. Is Matt really entitled to just go picking some random urinal out of the middle of the pack, and then laying claim to THREE urinals (his, and one on each side). Further, if Matt is really so “freaked out,” isn’t he entirely free to go use one of the commode stalls, so he can make sure nobody invades his privacy? I’m just teasing you a little, Matt, but just so you know, there really isn’t an epidemic of men wanting to watch you urinate in close proximity. ;-) |
Not to beat a dead horse, but I had to report on this. I flew back from LGA to BOS this afternoon, and Spike Lee was sitting in the seat in front of me. After the flight, I went into the restroom, and so did Mr. Lee. I had no opinion before this point of spike, but now I have issues with him. He is a double violator of all things proper in the bathroom. He is a non-hand washer, and a cell phone talker while urinating guy. If you see spike lee somewhere, i wouldn’t shake his hand. |
Thanks ilike2spike – that is good to know. Too many of those double violators. |