23 Comments | leave a comment | RSS 2.0 for this post | trackback |
The link to “The Kingdom” doesn’t work. [Admin Note: Thanks for the heads up, Seth. The link is now fixed.] |
Would you be willing to write your ideas/thoughts about the movie over on The Cultural Hall? I’d really like to hear what you thought of it. |
Unfortunately, The Kingdom trailer, in various forms, has been running in virtually every theatre I’ve entered for the past nine months. At this point, I think I’ve pretty much absorbed everything the movie will have to offer. Though I had fun the first few times through trying to determine whether the token female was Hilary Swank or Jennifer Garner. I won’t spoil that surprise for the discriminating trailer consumers among us. |
I knew immediately it was Jennifer Garner. I was actually curious what she was doing as, what seems, a secondary character in this movie. She seems to be there just because she’s a tough woman who kicks butt. I don’t recall her saying any lines in the trailer though. Seems weird for such a prominent actress. |
Go watch Lone Star and become a Chris Cooper fan! |
OK, I’ve seen the trailer for The Kingdom. Looks like just a bunch of jingoistic cheap heroics meant to make the lowest common denominator of American audiences feel knowledgeable just because the hand-held camera shots “look authentic.” I about busted up laughing at the maudlin obviousness of the woman handing out a lollipop. Pretty much sums up America’s dilemma over there: “Why do they hate us so much! After all, we brought lollipops!” |
I disagree, Seth. I think that it’s a wrong to think of every trailer that portrays a culture clash as jingoistic. The trailer for The Kingdom tells the story of a group of investigators who have to solve a criminal case in a strange land on someone else’s terms, and (lollipop moment aside) the montage sequences actually contribute to the movement of the trailer’s narrative. From the opening sequence that coherently sets up the actual crime, to the introduction of the heros as problems solvers, to the display of the broad array of difficulties they encounter in a strange land, this is a solid trailer. But what do other people think? Is Seth right that I’m just out to lunch about this trailer? |
I’m disappointed that both Seth and DKL have failed to appreciate the trailer’s lollipop moment. This is a high-intensity trailer, rapidly running the viewer from one violent scene to the next. The lollipop moment offers the viewer a momentary reprieve from an otherwise breathless sprint. To dismiss it as maudlin (Seth, explicitly; DKL, implicitly) suggests a fundamental misunderstanding of its pivotal role in subtly pacing the viewer through the trailer’s pulse-racing series of clips. |
Tagore, you’re right that I agree with Seth that the lollipop moment is the low-point of the trailer. But Seth seems to like his jingoistic heroics to be sugar-free, and I just don’t see the point in that. I don’t object to the lollipop moment per se, just the way that it’s presented. Having Jennifer Garner’s character execute the scene makes it an all-too-predictable cliche, that is more than a bit sexist — the sympathetic female character reaching out to the people that the angry men in the trailer tend to alienate. I think that it would have been daring to have Jamie Fox or Chris Cooper give away the lollipop. But I don’t mean to split hairs here. We’re only talking about two seconds out of a full, two minutes trailer. |
I think you’re out to lunch too about this trailer. :) What I got out of the trailer is yet another Americanized misunderstanding of the Middle East. The trailer does a great job at showing that there really is a communication gap as wide as the Red Sea between these two very different cultures. And instead of attempting to bridge that gap, this movie will like all the rest, be mere popcorn for a mindless American audience, interested more in things blowing up and bad guys shooting up Americans. I would rather see a movie that really shows an FBI group doing an investigation in Saudi Arabia that doesn’t end up with lots of things blown up and body parts flying all over the place. There are real dramatic elements just in the miscommunication between our two cultures, enough to keep people sitting down for a two hour movie. Why do we need to see things blow up all the time? |
Dan, we’re talking about the trailer here, not the movie. Please don’t threadjack. ;) |
Lollipop, lollipop, oh lolli-lolli-lolli – … that would be some nice music to put up against the explosions and gunfighting in the trailer. |
Anyone know what flavor? |
Sam, that’s a good question. While we argue here about the use of the lollipop in the trailer as a sappy moment, we’ve exposed our America-centric thinking; viz., the view that Saudi Arabians like American candy. Has it occurred to anyone here that Saudi Arabians might think that American candy is gross? Far from being a tender moment amidst a storm of violence, perhaps the lollipop gift embodies an act of scorn: this American woman is giving something away that is distasteful to Saudi Arabians. Sounds like a metaphor for exporting American culture in general. I continue to think that the trailer for The Kingdom is really worth seeing. |
Actually, there were early moments in Iraq where a lot of Iraqis were rather angry about the US GIs throwing out candy to Iraqi children “like dogs” as they put it. But really, that’s not my only beef with the trailer. They immediately started losing my interest at the point they had the hackneyed, cliche frontal shot of the lineup of “heroes” marching purposefully forward in the obligatory slow-mo scene right out of “The Right Stuff.” Lots of very overdone explosion shots and car tricks didn’t really help much. I predict this movie is lining the shelves at Blockbuster video by February of 2008, and showing up on an NBC Saturday evening before 08 is over. It’ll be OK, but really no better then Will Smith’s “Enemy of the State.” We’ve seen this movie before. |
I’ll admit the suicide bombing shots are both visceral and startling. And I pretty much agree with your take on the other trailers. Beowulf was probably my favorite (if you can call it that). But then, I’ve always been a sucker for dark forboding melodrama of an obscure nature. I did think the clip’s obsession with Ms. Jolie was rather silly though, in a very pandering sort of way. |
I had the pleasure of visiting one of the sets of The Kingdom twice last summer as it was being filmed near Phoenix. I didn’t really meet anyone famous, unless you count the director’s girlfriend and a bunch of extras dressed as Saudi soldiers. The first time I visited, it lookied like a Middle-Eastern settlement, much like what you’d see in any other movie that takes place in the region. Very realistic. However, a week later when I returned, it looked like a bomb had gone off (which is probably what they were going for). It was nothing short of awesome. Some of the buildings were leveled, some were heavily damaged, and some had large objects, like cars, lodged into the sides of them. They even brought in cars from New Orleans that were damaged in Katrina, blew them up, set them on fire and scattered them everywhere. If I had to judge the movie based on the set, I’d give it two thumbs up. |
DKL, Does the trailer for The Kingdom do any damage to Mr. Medved’s thesis that Hollywood won’t make movies about Islamic terrorists? Or is the terrorist secretly LDS? |
With our nation having such great ties to “The Kingdom” I wonder why the director was not able to procure his filming actually IN the Kingdom? Make it authentic and all, you know. Maybe we really are not welcome over there, especially a film…er trailer… that depicts Saudis in such bad light. |
Ah! I know now why Jennifer Garner is in this trailer. It is directed by none other than Peter Berg, aka Noah Hicks, aka the Snowman. |
That makes perfect sense, Dan. I hadn’t made that connection. |
DKL, yes the trailer is great – particularly because of the inclusion of “Bullet the Blue Sky†which lets us know this is going to be a different kind of action movie. Dan, Peter Berg chose not to film in Saudi Arabia because he thought doing so might be a danger to the cast. Also, I think there’s more to the movie than meets the eye in the trailer. Surely no one who thinks the film represents “another Americanized misunderstanding of the Middle East†would think the same of Carnahan’s other movie which comes out just a few months later. |
Well put, Eric. Maybe you should be writing our Movie Preview Reviews. |