21 Comments | leave a comment | RSS 2.0 for this post | trackback |
This is a very interesting post. I have a couple of questions and observations. You have used the word “supernatural,” which I have seen in some recent papers where in older work the term “magic” would likely have been used. Is this the preferred terminology (or am I just confusing things)? I also think that your analysis of Mormon sacramentality applies only to the modern Church. I think during the time when baptism was constantly re-administered (for various reasons), it was viewed quite differently than now, and perhaps consequently the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper. Mormonism also has other rituals that I think are fairly described as sacraments. The temple, which has as you described baptism is, I think, currently viewed as being “means to bind us to higher and higher standards.” But what about healing rituals? Or other things that are commonly called “ordinances” by Latter-day Saints, but somewhat defy the appellation (blessings, dedications, etc)? |
This is indeed an interesting post. I think all three religions you describe have truth. My feeling is they’ve (including us) have chosen throw the baby out with the bathwater. We could use more of that deeply mystic reverence I’ve experienced in Catholic masses, we could use that dependence on grace I’ve seen in Protestant and evangelicals. And they could use a bit of our practicality. I’ve chosen to remain a Mormon, I’m a believer, but I reject the emphasis on works and choose to focus on grace. I’ve also had the occasional “mystical” or, as you describe it, J. “magical” experience and while some are indeed sacred, I believe they are really business as usual in God’s world, reflecting His approach, which to us is so unexplainable that it appears magical. This is a pretty darn good thesis, Matt. But then, you are a big cheese thinker. I did a study while I was in college ten years ago as a non-traditional student on near death experiences and the way different religions perceive them. I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again and always: We are more alike than we are different, we Christian faiths. Everything I read focused on good works and loving others. Ultimately, that’s what matters. |
Thanks, guys. Stape – The term ‘magic,’ academically speaking, implies that the ritual functions on its own in a mechanical way; that if you do everything right, your desired result will occur every time. These Protestants, then, would recoil from that; Luther and Calvin had a hard enough time maintaining these rites as ‘sacraments’ and avoiding simple memorialism. Indeed, it was the popular perception of indulgences as ‘magic’ that ticked off Luther in the first place. The question of blessings, dedications, etc., is an interesting one. Some Protestant theologians argued that the five sacraments Catholics maintain – blessing the sick, marriage, etc – developed from their original status as simple appeals through prayer, gradually taking on a more ritualized and eventually sacramental cast. I think there’s some of that in Mormonism, though you probably know the details of the development there better than I. Laying on of hands to heal is the one I know the best, and I wonder if it hasn’t developed toward ordinance. Thanks, annegb. The importance of the particulars between say a Luther and a Zwingli does sometimes surprise me, coming from Mormonism as I do. |
Thanks for the reply (and sorry for the lateness of getting back), but you say, speaking of Luther: “the Lord’s Supper possessed a supernatural grace deeply connected to its identification with the very body of Christ. He likened it to an iron thrust into a fire; the heat and the metal so intermingled as to be inseparable.” What is this grace if it is not magical? |
You know, you made me think of the days when I used to attend the Pentacostal Church and went to revivals. What a big loud meeting a revival is! But I noticed that some speakers could nail it, make people feel and rejoice (I never did those crazy things, but sometimes I felt the spirit, I was very quiet about it, though)and dance in the aisles. All that stuff. Others, though, they tried, they tried real hard to get that emotional response and they would talk louder and move about more energetically and nobody was feeling it. We’d all be a little embarrassed at that preacher’s failure to incite us to deep emotion. In Mormon meetings, for the most part, we’re embarrassed when a speaker gets excited and we get that dance in the aisle feeling. Well, truth be told, it doesn’t happen too often now, does it? I’ve heard a few speakers, though, who had the spirit, and a love for their audience and a love for Jesus Christ. We need more of that in our church. Not as much as Pentacostals, but more rejoicing in the atonement and less lecturing on food storage and scripture reading and all the “to-do’s.” |
anne: my term is “check-list mormonism”. But, the things on that check-list, even if it’s just food storage, are the “good” “good-works” you mention in #2. |
Stape – it is not magical because for Luther, the mere act of participating in the Lord’s Supper holds no power whatsoever. The wafer and wine themselves mean nothing (a point he makes about the waters of baptism in the catechism I quoted) absent grace of God – grace that is effective regardless of one’s participation in sacrament. We engage in sacraments, then, for our benefit, not because God needs them to communicate grace. For Luther, what animates such sacraments is the grace that God has already directed to the one participating, outside over and before the sacrament itself. A sacrament, then, a sure sign of God’s promise, and it is given what metaphysical nature it might have as a signal that God has already chosen to exert his will in gracious ways. |
The problem, Bookslinger, is that we Mormons have so many good works that no one can accomplish them all perfectly and God gets lost in the process. Of course it’s wise to have food storage. But an active Mormon listening to the same lecture yet again who is doing the best he or she can to store food and feed and clothe their kids while paying tithing, serving in their callings, do their genealogy, and so on and so on, needs a pat on the back once in awhile instead of the customary warning that if you don’t do all these things, you’re probably screwed in some way or another. I like CS Lewis’ comment about serving God in a less worried way. |
Matt, Neuenschwander states what is said in anthropology, that rituals, rites, ordinances, even religion itself, are by definition means for conveying acceptable norms and behaviors through generations. This could be applied in each instance you cited. For Mormons, I think we can insert a strikingly common thread through both the Catholicism and Protestantism paradigms as you have outlined, where we adhere to certain “sacraments” or ordinances in an effort to exact blessings contingent upon obedience, but also strongly adhere to a some ordinances being able to have almost mystic effects, such as the laying on of hands for the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Upon receipt, Mormons actively seek the guidance of this “mystic” personage. I think the comment made by Annegb that every church has light adds to this argument. Where Elder Neuenschwander formed a sort of separate definition, he might have addressed these predecessor beliefs as part of what we also believe, though incomplete. I don’t think Mormonism redefines the ordinances or the idea of God as much as clarifies. I think that the most basic goal of our ordinances is to influence our behavior, where there are still higher levels of experience to be had. We often believe the highest experiences to be very mystical indeed. Luther’s path must have been set in place because of his own such experience, while Calvin must have simply been a pragmatist. But, I only assume so. |
Matt, thanks for this essay. I would take issue with only one sentence: Mormon sacramentality is constructed in terms of behavior rather than grace. I don’t think this quite captures our view of ordinances. I think that our view is actually much closer to the Catholic view that you describe, although of course different in many respects. For one thing, the ordinances make the Atonement effectual in the lives of those who perform them. This is a concept of grace and is not actually very different from the Protestant construct you describe above — after all, they too believe in at least one saving work: accepting Jesus Christ in their hearts. Without doing that, they are not saved, despite the abundant grace of God. |
Nas – Thanks for bringing up the laying on of hands. If I were forced to categorize Mormon ordinances as either Lutheran or Zwinglian – based upon the theology that we are given – I would categorize our ‘sacrament’ as Zwinglian memorialism. We are told that we take it in remembrance, and there is no hint of the sort of mystical nature imparted to the bread and water than Catholics or Lutherans teach. The laying on of hands, however – and to a lesser extent, baptism – do seem sacramental to me, however; effectuating some sort of metaphysical action. john – I’d largely agree, though I’d make distinctions among our ordinances, for the reasons I outlined above. I do think, though, many Mormons are not uncomfortable but unsure of how to talk about grace. The necessary ideas, though, are there, particularly in baptism, though somewhat inchoate. I’d disagree with your final clause, though; the concept of grace you describe there is characteristic of modern Arminian influenced evangelicalism, not the Reformation. Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli would have found it foreign, and their orthodox descendants do still. |
Matt, thanks for explaining that. I confess to being poorly read in much of the reformation. I also struggle to understand the real distinction you outline in comment #7. If the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper has no metaphysical efficacy, than what is it if not memorialism? Perhaps you could recommend some reading. |
You know what, Matt, you are so right. I regularly, although not often, if that makes sense, correct teachers who tell us all the things we have to “do” to be saved in the kingdom. I remind them that none of us can do anything to be saved, that Christ did it for us. We have to surrender, as CS Lewis described. Although I haven’t figured out how to do that yet. And every dang time, somebody will raise their hand and say, “yes, but….you have to do everything you can” and I get such a stomachache you wouldn’t believe it. I honestly think people in my ward don’t think I have a testimony because of that one correction I make. I remember one time the RS teacher saying “you HAVE to do this and this and this or you will be damned and you Have to do this to gain the Celestial Kingdom.” And I raised my hand and said (quietly and demurely, no lie)”If I can and must do all those things myself, I would have no need for a Savior. Where is Christ in your equation?” She’s a smart woman and quickly backtracked and cleared it up. But it happens all the time. |
Stape – Ah, I didn’t mean to imply that for Luther the Lord’s Supper had no metaphysical efficacy; it did. But such efficacy was contingent upon the grace God already may or may not have extended to individuals. The sacralization of the wafer (the iron-in-fire bit) was real; it was a gracious act of God demonstrating his already-extended grace in tangible ways to his elect. Thus, the LS was truly a sacrament for Luther, though it in no way replaced or was necessary for salvation through grace alone. I imagine this may have either cleared things up or only made thigs worse. Theology’s like that, I guess. The best thing Luther ever wrote on sacraments is the Babylonian Captivity of the Church. You can probably find it online. It’s early in his career, though; his views shifted a bit later on. anne – Hate to break it to you, but I think Mormonism as generally understood and taught is in fact a religion of works. Doesn’t mean grace isn’t real and doesn’t exist, but it’s a lot easier for Mormons to focus on the sort of stuff we can control. We haven’t had a great thinker on grace yet in our history. |
How about Robert Millett? Have you read his book Steadfast and Immoveable. It was and remains a light in my life. The GA’s often quote CS Lewis. I also love the writings of Yancey, but he’s not a Mormon. |
annegb, I’d go even further and say that Mormonism isn’t even so much about works as it is about becoming like Christ. See Elder Oaks’ talk On Becoming. Works are something we do as practice and to teach us. |
I love that sentence, arj, becoming like Christ. Was there a link on that Elder Oaks talk that you missed? |
Sorry, got the title wrong. It is The Challenge to Become. It is one of the more memorable talks (in a good way) of the past few years. |
Matt: early Mormon baptism according to my reviews was sacramental, as were the temple “ordinances.” that was crucial to Smith’s view of what he had to offer people in his new and everlasting covenant. They do not appear to have been particularly fastidious about these distinct usages. That said, I agree that there were Arminian/perfectionist impulses in early Mormonism, along with sacramental uses and some occasional Baptist-sounding rhetoric. B for the dead is of course the sacramental baptism par excellence, even as it is expressed in terms of ordinance. It’s worth noting also the genealogical aspect of these “covenants.” People were being bound to each other even as they were being bound to God. And the binding was not just by means of their piety, as you read Neuenschwander, but through creation of familial relationships to God. This is an amplification/permutation of the Catholic body of God, and an intriguing one. Nice post, though. |
Sam – Thanks for the early Mormon perspective (which hasn’t really been addressed, so it’s a nice supplement to the modern prespective of Neuenschwander) and for bringing up the sealing ordinances, which I think are clearly the most sacramental of Mormon ordinances – more so than the endowment or the ritual we call the ‘sacrament.’ Baptism is an interesting case, though, and one not yet really addressed so far on the thread. I think Mormonism has a fairly Catholic perspective on baptism, actually; we argue that it literally cleans us of the sin which has clung to us to that point. However, though we say it has salvific power, the metaphysics of that are much more vague than its cleansing properties. Why, exactly, is baptism essential? Is it a covenant? I’m not really sure about that, actually. |
[...] ruminated a bit before (here) about Mormon eucharistic theology. But these particular events have caused me to think a bit [...] |