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This makes me wonder about something related to the changing church positions on this or that. Why does it take the church so long to change its policy? Why does the Lord not reveal a shift until long after most of the rest of society has already drifted in that direction? I mean, let’s take the removal of the ban on blacks and the priesthood. I don’t want to debate the merits of the ban, how it came to pass, or why it finally was removed. But I question the timing. Eugene England states that he feels “at this time” is not the right time for same sex unions. Why not? Why does the Lord allow generations to pass to change what He could by a simple revelation? Why would he let so many suffer what some would call needless suffering (seeing that the policy could be changed, just not “at this time.”)? Perhaps this is a question that can only really be answered later. Life sucks and then you die. |
This was hard for me to read, Tagore. I love Gene. I miss him terribly. I hate the way he was treated. It is very, very hard for me to not blame his premature death on those who managed to kick him to the sidelines–and often with some public humiliation. The question I ask is, how do we deal with what we’ve LOST before the “timing” is right? We have a Gene England who does all he can to build the Church, but who is rebuked. How is his family doing? How are all of his former students faring, knowing how disrespectful some were towards him? I spent last weekend with two descendants of Jane Manning James–neither of whom is LDS, despite that remarkable legacy. They are pretty bold about saying why they choose not to participate in Mormonism, and it has everything to do with how their parents (raised LDS) were treated. Is that loss included in God’s “timing?” We’re willing to lose this many before we give a revelation? No, I think God has no puppets on Earth, only good men with great callings who do the best they can, but who are not immune from the prevailing thoughts of their time. I heard the phrase “This will change when the time is right” last month. I won’t reveal the context. My thought was, “Well, that’s how I’ll handle my life, then. I’ll repent–when the time is right.” Or, to quote St. Augustine: “Lord make me clean–but not yet!” |
I really, really enjoyed this post. I didn’t know Eugene England approached life like this. What a cool guy. Good for him! |
So, did the professor say anything to the rest of the class about her change of heart or did she stay silent about it? |
As an English major at BYU, I never took a class from Eugene England. But my mother took a class about LDS literature from him, and I ended up reading every book listed in the syllabus for that class. I think he passed away while I was still a student there. I remember thinking I had missed a chance to take a class from him and was a little sad about that. |
I just checked out wikipedia to see if there was an entry there for Eugene England – I wanted to read a little more about him and get back to an understanding of what Margaret Young was talking about. While there are many LDS notables listed at that site, and there is mention of Eugene England’s name in an article about Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought – there isn’t actually an entry for him. I wonder if that should be corrected. |
What a great post. I agree that the pace of change in policies (Dan, #1) and culture (Margaret, #2) is maddeningly slow. |
By the way, back to the subject of the original post- I wonder how many minds – like that law professor – Gene’s critics have changed. |
Dan: Great questions. I tend to agree with Armand Mauss’s view on the way change operates in the Church. He views it as a matter of institutional survival. The Church is constantly trying to balance between becoming mainstream enough to be acceptable to outsiders with being distinct enough that it doesn’t lose its identity. Things that would bring some personal satisfaction to you or me (e.g., an apology for denying blacks the priesthood) may create bigger problems for the institution’s survival. Margaret: You raise some tough questions. I’m still baffled why Gene was treated the way he was at BYU. I was in the last BYU group that Gene took to London before he was exiled to UVSC. It was definitely one of the most formative experiences of my life, and such a great privelege to spend time with Gene. I really miss him, too. A couple of years ago I gave a friend who had left the Church a copy of Gene’s essay “Why the Church is as True as the Gospel.” My friend read it and reported back somewhat remorsefully, “If I had read that earlier, I probably would not have left the Church.” PDOE: I’m not sure if the professor told the class. danithew: I agree. There should definitely be a Wikipedia entry for Gene. Maybe Margaret is up for the task? Ellsworth: As always, great insights. I think you’re exactly right about Gene finding Christ in the Church– and that manifests itself throughout Gene’s writings. I love your comment #8. |
Tagore, Thanks for sharing this. I’m very impressed that the professor in question was willing to re-examine her own views and moderate them when presented with additional evidence. My sister recently had a similar encounter with professor in graduate school in which she was informed that her personal moral standards made her unfit to be a social worker. As time goes by I am less and less surprised by the lack of open mindedness of those that proclaim their own liberal virtues most loudly. I’m also impressed (as always) by the power of Professor England’s words. I regret that I only met him once, but that meeting has had a profound impact on me. I am saddened that he was marginalized when he should have been celebrated. Of course, the same thing happened to Christ, Joseph Smith, and others, right? Perhaps in time his combination of faith and thoughtfulness will be more widely appreciated. |
Fabulous. Have you read The Trial of the Stick of Joseph? |
Thanks Tagore, |
Thank you for this post, Tagore. What strikes me about Professor England’s final paragraph is how difficult it seems to have been for him to say that. This was no easy answer, no stance that he could rest on and feel good about himself. It’s clear that it is extremely painful for him to have to say those things to people he loves. Sometimes I look for policies to relieve my conscience and take away some of the sting of moral quandries, but he certainly didn’t seem to be avoiding pain in his position. Yes, I think that Margaret and some sort of Eugene England coalition should write a wikipedia article on him. |
“That feeling of approval, a burning in my bosom and fire in my bones, was as real as anything I have experienced and has never entirely left me. It has come back again and again to serve as the touchstone by which I have judged among the choices and issues and conflicts of my life” I wish we all had the faith to seek the spirit to answer all the “choices and issues and conflicts” in our lives. What a great man. |
I went ahead and created a bare-bones wikipedia entry for him. I never knew him and I’ve only read a few of his writings, so please go ahead and add in anything you know about him, especially where he grew up, biographical details, anything more about his teaching career, etc. The page was apparently created a while ago, but deleted last year because it was just a copy-paste job from his MormonLit Database page, so don’t just take stuff straight from other sources if you do contribute. And does anybody have a (non-copyrighted) picture of him we could put up there? And as for the post, I thought it was great. It’s such a hard decision to know when to criticize an institution you love, and how to do it positively. England seems to be one of the all-time best at it that I know of. Thanks for the link to that article. |
austin s: Great work– thanks for taking the initiative on that. |
Re: #9 & #12 “Why the Church is as True as the Gospel” is back in print. See http://www.amazon.com/dp/0850511011 Re: #15 I believe I can provide a photo. I’ll crop and photoshop it, and add it to the wikipedia entry. |
This is an interesting insight to the late Gene England. I was a classmate of his at the University of Utah in the 1950′s. We had a freshman English class from Dr. Edwin Chapman (it was advanced English for Frosh). One day we were told that at the next session we were to write an “in class” essay which would be on a subject not announced until the class was seated. I now recognize that this was a method of weeding out possible plagiarists, but at the time I was a bit fearful. England was sitting two rows ahead of me and slightly to the right. There was no one in the intervening row. After the topic was written on the board, I noticed England surreptitiously going through a small file of 3×5 cards, each of which appeared to have copious notes written in very small print. I have always assumed that he had written about 4 or 5 different topics which he felt he might bend or adapt to the topic. In any case, we both got A’s on the essay. I made a presumption about the ethical standard being applied at the time and have always had a somewhat uneasy feeling about Gene ever since. He was a very attractive young man and dressed always in the height of fashion — he always seemed to be aware of those, like myself, who admired him. I am gay, but was very closeted at the time. I had however, begun my researches into LDS doctrine on the matter. Along with other reasons (racial doctrine for example) this led me to formally resign from the LDS Church a few years later. I don’t doubt Gene’s description of his spiritual experiences, because I have had more than one of a similar nature, not under the rubric of Mormonism, however, but in relation to both literary and musical inspiration, and with regard to some researches into Buddhism. |
I just came upon this interesting post about my father, Eugene England. Thank you, all of you, for remembering a very good, courageous, influential (though far from perfect) person. Mr. Jensen, I love your memory of my dad pushing the boundaries of ethical behavior when he was a college freshman. He must not have been under the influence of Lowell Bennion yet. Though not often, I’ve witnessed him do a few questionable things, like walk into the exit of a sold-out (I think Picasso) art exhibit, move down to a better seat at a play in London, and speed on the freeway. But honestly, I have never known a person who acted with greater integrity than my father. He was quick to recognize and to apologize for his mistakes. I checked the wikipedia article. It’s all accurate, so thank you. I’ll try to get a photo posted. The family has been slow, but finally we are moving towards and getting close to making Eugene England more accessible. We’ve set up a nonprofit foundation; we’ve spent a lot of time preparing his paperss and are talking to three universities, along with a lawyer, about how best to make his papers available; my mother is actively collecting essays and memories about my father with the idea of publishing the best writings into a collection of personal essays about my father, a kind of joint biography; besides the papers made available at a university, my personal goal is to have within the next year a Eugene England website that makes his writings more accessible. If any of you have suggestions, or would like to share memories or thoughts about Eugene England, feel free to contact me at rebeccaengland@mac.com. I’d be interested in what you think are Eugene England’s best essays. Maybe we could make the top ten available first. Thanks again. |
I have to second what my sister Rebecca has said–and am pleased that Dad was able to learn how to beat the system as a college freshman–I’ve been less than ethical at times, and I hope I got some of those qualities along with some of the good qualities of a great and good man. Thanks for the memories, both glowing and critical. |
I only now, December 1, 2008, came upon Gene’s daughters’ comments, and I am impressed by their objectivity. It is also good to know that his children are happy with his memory. I do not know “the way he was treated.” I would like to find a resource that discusses this. Also, I am interested in what any of you think on this issue now that the LDS Church’s involvement in the passage of Proposition 8 in California has become somewhat notorious. I reside in Sacramento CA. |