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Once, we were bringing over a coworker from one of our European offices, to do some work at an office in New Jersey. He commented that “hey, it’s the Garden State!” To which we said, “that nickname is more of an ideal, than a reality.” He didn’t believe us until he spent time in Newark. |
LOL. Very good! |
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It’s okay Tagore, New Jersey is the armpit of the nation. |
Let us once again be clear about the fact that the Church does not condone that behavior. I have never, in any manuals or Conference talks or private interviews with figures of authority, read any Church teachings sanctioning the disposal of vomit bags on the road in New Jersey. I have never perceived even a wink-wink acceptance of New Jersey vomit littering in the context of all the Church teachings I have received. |
annegb: Thanks for getting my back. Ellsworth: I think you’re right. I wonder, though, if this might fall under the “unwritten order of things”? |
Next time bring a stash of freezer-sized Ziplocs. Littering is a huge pet peeve of mine. You’d understand if you lived in California, where trash is all over the place. And the first rainstorm of the year, it all gets washed out to the beaches. Nothing like swimming in the ocean and having a straw float by. Unless it’s walking on the beach and spotting a syringe in the sand. |
Dan and Susan M raise a good point. Was it not as bad because it was New Jersey? Would it have been much worse if it had been, say, California or Connecticut? |
Susan, littering is ontologically equivalent to totalitarianism — nobody likes it. I think that Tagore’s confession here represents a public acknowledgement of wrong-doing. The first step to solving a problem is recognizing it, and Tagore is well on his way to moving beyond the trash-throwing ways that have littered his past. Perhaps it’s time we had a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for litterers. I’ve always thought that anti-litter laws are a bit punitive. We have laws that outlaw littering and enforce heavy fines and gain popular expression through angry-sounding signs like, “littering punished by $500 fine” (emphasis added). Instead we should adopt a more pragmatic approach. Why not make littering legal and charge on a per-item basis to litter? The sign could read instead, “Garbage dump. $500 per item.” $500 a pop could fund a lot of cleaning projects, resulting in cleaner highways than we’ve ever known. People could even purchase littering credits ahead of time and store them on their Fast Lane cards to be electronically debited, so that littering drivers can be spared the inconvenience of having to be pulled over by cops. I’ve often thought the same thing about anti-smoking laws. Instead of having signs that read, “Smoking prohibited. $20 fine” (emphasis added), we could have signs that read, “Smoking area. $20 per cigarette.” Those citizens who place stock in the imaginary effects of secondhand smoke could have their superstitions assuaged quite easily, since the $20 charge per cigarette could fund elaborate air-cleaning devices that would result in much cleaner indoor-air than we currently have. |
I dunno. I think maybe Tagore deserves a reward for improving New Jersey… |
So with all the New Jersey bashing, I was feeling a little sorry for the state and thought I might mount a defense. The first website that popped up when I searched “New Jersey Beautiful” was a website that purportedly shared my goal. http://www.newjerseyisbeautiful.com/ Not really all that helpful. |
By the way, for anyone in Hoboken reading this blog, “old” does not necessarily mean “beautiful. |
Although, I would take a Jersey accent over a Boston one. |
Queuno, Really? While I find both grating I’d have to say the ‘Joizie’ accent is a little more piercing. Here’s a question – would subjecting detainees to the incessant talking of either a thick Boston or New Jersey accent constitute torture under the Geneva Convention? Discuss. |
I think I’d crack fairly quickly if I were subjected to listening to Fran Drescher (”The Nanny”). |
DKL: That’s a brilliant idea. I’d likely have to pay a premium to dump biohazardous waste like vomit. Jota G (11): A noble, yet impossible task. Boston accents are admittedly painful, but a Jersey accent is straight up torturous. |
As a former NY / NJ missionary, I must stick up a bit for New Jersey. The Garden State *is* aptly named. Those who claim otherwise are mostly people who never left the turnpike and its immediate vicinity. |
Wait – there’s a part of NJ not on the turnpike? (I have spent over a month of my life, collectively, in Warren and the area nearby. Nice area, I will admit.) |
Ugh. Both accents are horrible when taken for more than 5 minutes. Give me a good drawl anyday. |
New Jersey is lovely. Anyone who doesn’t believe just hasn’t been to the right part (the wrong parts being any city in NJ, pretty much). But almost everywhere else, really, is quite nice. |
New Jersey is actually very pretty, except for Secaucus, which sometimes smells as you drive down the turnpike. I just like to pick on the state. |
New Jersey is primarily rural countryside between I-287 and the Delaware River and between I-295 and the Atlantic Ocean. That looks to be about 90% of the state. Of course, most of the population and nearly all the visitors passing through are concentrated in the Philadelphia-New York corridor that makes up the remaining 10%. |
Too funny Tagore. I was on the NJ turnpike last week for work. It is ugly, but when you deviate from it, NJ is a pretty state. It is one of the most picked on states in the country – similar to West Virginia. Not a lot of love going to those states. |
I think you’d best be worried about being cited for unauthorized disposal of toxic waste. At least you weren’t heaving overloaded soiled diapers out the driver’s side window. |
New Jersey can be nice. Just compare it to NYC, and even Newark can seem nice. Hoboken has improved considerably. Northern and Western NJ are very pleasant. |
What a great story! Way to “man up” and do the right thing for your fam! And there are some very lovely places in Jersey. They are just surrounded by trashy heaps of toxic waste (your vomit bags may go unnoticed), impossibly pink houses, and fecal-laden grime. When I lived there, on our way to church we would always pass this one tributary that was a favorite “sleeps with the fishes” locale; many a Sunday we noted they were “dragging the river” again! |
Apart from the rather unfortunate cities of Trenton, Newark, and Camden, I would have to agree that the majority of New Jersey is really quite pretty. And when one is penned in on all sides by these locales, as well as NYC and Philadelphia, that’s no small feat! |
Perhaps you could send a small token of gratitude to the garbage department, some cupcakes or something. Perhaps a check. Or you could pay it forward and take your kids out to clean up a stretch of highway. Frankly, I think you were between a rock and a hard place and sometimes these emergencies necessitate bad behavior. |
I do have to say that the “Pine Barrens” episode from the Sopranos showed a pretty woodsy area in New Jersey. |