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This is a good post, Matt, and good food for thought. I enjoyed reading what you wrote about the types of prayers and your acknowledgement that there are so many different kinds of prayer and praying. I’ve started talking to God straight on, man to man. Sometimes—-well, woman to man——sometimes I kneel and have formal prayer. Bill and I pray together and during the day I will reach out to him in silent seeking. But I’ve started talking out loud to God like I talk to my friends,explaining or griping or asking for help in understanding a situation, letting go of a situation, or behaving right. But I just barely started that, so I’ll let you know how it turns out. Personally, I think Mormon insistence on formal prayer ritual and wording shuts out the spirit a lot of the time because people fake it. They don’t really pray, they just make sure they say the right words. |
Matt B. wrote: Abraham’s intercession for Sodom and Gomorrah is another example, and a reminder that we are commanded to pray for our enemies, with all the fervency of Christ. Maybe there should be a category of ‘prayer as conversation’ – because Abraham’s petition for Sodom and Gomorrah is actually described as such, with Abraham making the petition and the Lord responding, Abraham renewing the petition and the Lord responding, etc. It’s rare that we see such a line-by-line dialogue. One of my favorite verses would fit into the “Prayer as thanksgiving category” – the verse where Lehi is overcome with what he has seen and says
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Matt, do you feel like the Maytag repairman? I do. |
I love the listing of different kinds of prayer, although I am confused as to why you seem to think that Mormons pray only in the limited set of styles rather than the larger set. I have heard prayers and urgings for prayers of thanksgiving (It seems that little Mormon kids are taught this one first), petition (oh heavens, yeah), intercession (praying on behalf one those in one’s stewardship, particularly) and forgiveness (daily requests for forgiveness to be right with the Lord, mimicing Enos, for example) both in Sunday School classes and from other Mormons. Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying in your post? Maybe you are not saying that Mormons don’t “do” the other kinds of prayers, but rather that we do not formalize and ritualize the other kinds of prayers. While we do have catch phrases for blessing the food, I can’t think of a catch phrase for asking for forgiveness. I suspect this is because the other kinds of prayers are much more often private – it might be awkward to pray for your children or your sweetheart in front of them and the rest of the family. If those kinds of prayers are most often private, then there is less opportunity for a catch phrase to spread. |
One thing we do is when our grandkids sleep over, we have them kneel with us for prayers by our bed and we pray for them. They love it! Sometimes all I say is “Jesus, thou son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.” |
Hmm…good point – I often heard my mother praying for me. Maybe they aren’t necessarily private from the family, but each family tends to hold their prayers private from one another. While there are some pat phrases for blessing the food, I suspect that there isn’t a consistent structure or phrasing for family prayers, and those are wildly encouraged in Mormon life. |
Whoops, I think my earlier comment was eaten. The gist: I surely believe that all these types of prayer are present in the daily lives of Mormons, though I think we mix and match within a single prayer. As I implied, it appears to me that we divide prayer into two types – official prayers on one hand, and personal on the other, and lump all of the genres I mentioned above into ‘personal.’ In other Christian services, there are entire prayers reserved for the thanking of God; other prayers pleading with God for forgiveness, etc. My intent, I think, was to muse aloud about the possibility of sharpening the way we think about communicating with God by breaking the means down into categories. Doing that, I think, helps us think more precisely about the various types of relationships we have with him. Praising God, for example – the prayer of adoration, not thanksgiving – isn’t something we much do in Mormonism. Not sure why. |
Anne, by the way, that’s actually known as the “sinner’s prayer,” and it’s very common among evangelicals. It’s supposed to teach humility (not to mention salvific grace, if you believe salvation works that way). Reinhold Niebuhr’s “serenity prayer” is well known too: O God and Heavenly Father, Grant to us the serenity of mind to accept that which cannot be changed; the courage to change that which can be changed, and the wisdom to know the one from the other, through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen. Also intended to teach us to focus on our own pride rather than the actions of others. |
Annie Dillard has a great quote in one of her books from a religious leader (I think it was a jewish leader but I can’t remember and am too lazy to look it up in the book) who said that he approached prayer with fear because he was afraid that he would be struck dead in the moment between his invoking of God’s presence and his request for forgivenss of his sins. |
As an alcoholic, I say the Serenity Prayer all the time. I think there’s a longer version, or maybe AA added these words, but to “the things I cannot change” they say, “people, places, and things” and “things I can” they say “my attitude.” Usually that’s all that’s required to fix our problems. Cheiko Okazaki writes about sparrow prayers, which I say often. God almost always answers them. Usually I say them when I’ve lost something. Once in awhile, they’re fairly desperate, like, “could you just give me one hour of quiet?” |
Thank you, Matt, for the explanation. That makes sense. I wonder what this means in terms of public and private religion? I noticed on my mission that while Mormons talk constantly about church, new missionaries (including myself) were frequently puzzled and a little embarassed by the frequent mentions of the Lord by the people we met. We’d look away at first, like we’d accidentally caught someone kissing in a corner. I remember once stumbling across my mother during her personal prayers, and I was as embarassed as if I’d walked in on her in the bathroom. I wonder if maybe part of the reason so many testimonies sound alike is because those phrases have passed the test of being acceptable in public while other sentiments may not guarded as too private to share. As with many issues, there is a difference here between the general population of the church and the behavior of the general authorities – it seems I have heard the sincere, open expressions of emotion and humility more often in General Conference than in church on Sunday. |
I totally agree with you, Katie. Same here. Bookslinger called it churchianity rather than Christianity. I hate when I hear worship of programs and lectures about how you endanger your salvation by not doing your genealogy rather than praising Christ. |