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So I was like, 7, and I don’t remember anything. But isn’t June 9 the fateful day? Rereading the Biography of SWK by his son, it seems that the public announcement was made on the 9th… |
I was at work, in Seattle. I was also radio listening, and called my best friend (an atty who was in the Brprk); he was SHOCKED. I don’t know that the decision to change was based so much on a “Revelation” so much as a membership change of the 12. ‘Hint’: ETB had passed how long before this happened??? |
This is a really great post, Naomi, and much of it really rang true for me; particularly your thoughts about making history real and true and vital in our lives. That is, I think, so much about what being Christian really is: manifesting the sacred past in the present, and what you’re getting at here is really about making ourselves – those of us not yet born in June, 1978 – part of that continuing revelation. ‘ETB’ was quite alive in 1978, and remained so until 1994, Guy. You may recall he was president of the church for quite a while. |
Thanks so much, Matt. And it’s good to hear from you! I tend to function on an upward trajectory model of history–those who come after are always more enlightened and progressive than those who come before. And certainly, later generations benefit from the trails blazed by the ones before. But I think when it comes to living CHristian virtues, as you mentioned, those who are born later have no claim on any particular inherent goodness not accessible to those before. I like your idea that being Christian means incorporating history in a way that changes us and requires us to mature spiritually and acquire Christ-like attributes. queno–June 9th very well may have been the fateful day. It probably was. Dang it–I really should resarch these things more thoroughly… Guy Noir–So you were in Seattle? I’d love to hear the experience of someone in the South, hear how it was received there. Hopefully with rejoicing. |
Guy–I’m trying to understand your reasoning on ETB: He was against Communism, Socialism, and BYU students getting food stamps; therefore, he must’ve been against the Blacks receiving the Priesthood–although he was there when it happened and was part of the unanimous vote accepting it? |
In 1964 I was eleven and was put into a class of gifted children taught at Stanford. The brightest and kindest boy in the class was black. When I told my dad the black boy was the smartest he told me I was wrong. He explained the ban to me and his explanation was probably as racist as they come. I went to Mom. She set me down and had me read 2 Nephi 26:33. She very respectfully told me that dad was wrong about blacks and that sometimes church leaders make mistakes. She said she knew in her heart that someday Dad would understand. Meanwhile we needed to pray to Heavenly Father to soften the hearts of the members so the day would come when things would change. She told me she had been given to know this would happen before the millenium and that the gospel would be preached in Africa. If anyone is more enlightened and progressive than my mother that person is already celestial. I was visiting teaching and the news was on in the other room the day of the announcement. We hugged and we cried with joy. I drove out to the Kansas fields to tell my husband and met him driving in to tell me. We hugged and cried together. My grandmother “came out” as a Bill Cosby fan. My Dad took a little longer to come around but now tends his black granddaughter in the morning after my sister leaves for work and puts her on the bus to school. He loves her like he does all the rest of his grandchildren. Dad began his change of heart with Elder McConkie’s “I was wrong” talk, one of the most inspiring examples of humility ever. |
Naomi, It says right there in the OD2 that the revelation was received on the 8th. Now whether or not it was announced the following day I don’t remember. I only remember dancing around the living room when I heard the news. |
Karen, Wow. You’re mother was incredibly insightful and prophetic. That’s awesome. |
er, *your* |
OK, so some bit of history – The “revelation” (if we want to call it that) was received on the 1st (this is the day that SWK and the FP and the ten of the 12 prayed and received the confirmation). They spent a week crafting the announcement and making plans to execute the new policy. Among other things, they tried to decide how best to communicate the revelation. It was suggested (Packer I think) that it be done in the form of a letter. Three of the twelve were charged during the week to craft separate plans (Packer, Hinckley, McConkie, I think). Francis Gibbons came up with a composite of all three. This was completed on the 8th. On the 9th, the revelation was presented to the rest of the GAs, who had been asked to quietly cancel meetings and travel and come fasting to the temple at 7am. During the meeting, after much discussion, President Kimball instructs President Tanner to “go tell the world”. After a short break, President Tanner returns and says that it is done. The GAs are instructed not to give interviews or comment, to let the letter stand on its own. To me, it’s either the 1st (the day the revelation was received) or the 9th, the day it was announced. The 8th is just a date on a letter that was drafted the day before it was announced. There’s an excellent treatment of the mechanics behind the revelation in “Lengthen Your Stride: The Presidency of Spencer W. Kimball” by Edward L. Kimball (2005, Deseret Book). |
It wasn’t a loving and kind Father that was denying priesthood blessings to His children… |
Guy, #2,
Um, Ezra Taft Benson, as much as I don’t like his politics, was still alive when this revelation had come. In fact, he became the next prophet. Ezra Taft Benson passed away in 1994 (I think, or 1993). Now, it is my firm belief that this revelation would not have come to pass with Harold B. Lee still around. |
I was thinking of HBL, I guess. what I do remember accurately was the Church News article said (paraphrase): Don’t marry those of another race. I think the reference to a ‘revelation’ was kinda loose. (fwiw) some say that JS was a chameleon on the issue of abolition-segregation (as we call them today). The whole thing of early church history has been nearly been lost to revisionism and innuendo, hearsay & half-truths. |
Here is one account of the events of 1978. ETB was there. Time to ban Guy. On June 1, 1978, at a regular temple meeting of the general authorities, Kimball asked the members of the First Presidency and the Twelve to stay for a private conference. In a spirit of fasting and prayer, they formed a prayer circle. Kimball opened by saying he felt impressed to pray to the Lord and asked their permission to be “mouth.†He went to the altar. Those in attendance said that as he began his earnest prayer, they suddenly realized it was not Kimball’s prayer, but the Lord speaking through him. A revelation was being declared. Kimball himself realized that the words were not his but the Lord’s. During that prayer some of the Twelve – at least two have said so publicly – were transported into a celestial atmosphere, saw a divine presence and the figures of former president of the church (portraits of whom were hanging on the walls around them) smiling to indicate their approval and sanction. Others acknowledged the voice of the Lord coming, as with the prophet Elijah, “through the still, small voice.†The voice of the Spirit followed their earnest search for wisdom and understanding. (Adventures of a Church Historian. Leonard J Arrington Pages 176-177 |
Time to shun Guy. |
Thanks Naomi, |
Oh lay off Bbell. Like you and I haven’t made dumb mistakes before. That’s all this was. About Harold B. Lee… I remember taking a class from Prof. Spencer Palmer on comparative religions while at BYU. He told us a story of how when he was serving in the Korean War, he served as kind of an informal “chaplain” for other LDS service members. He said, over time, they had converted about a dozen native Koreans, but weren’t allowed to bring them into full participation (can’t remember whether the restriction was on baptizing them, or just on priesthood, or what it was). Then Apostle Lee visited Korea to meet with LDS servicemen and women and Bro. Palmer ended up hosting him and showing him around. After meeting with the saints in uniform, Palmer suggested Elder Lee meet with some of the Korean believers, which Elder Lee agreed to and they spent a good part of the day doing so. Later that night, Elder Lee and Bro. Palmer stayed up late talking in Palmer’s tent and there’s this point where Elder Lee looks troubled and then admits he feels he was wrong about these people (meaning the Koreans). He said “I’ve met them, the light of Christ is in their eyes. These people are not ‘dark and loathsome’ or fallen.” According to Professor Palmer it seemed to be a genuine revelation for Elder Lee and he seemed a bit shaken by it. So, I suppose the accusations of prejudice in Harold B. Lee probably have something to them. But there also appear to be genuine beginnings of a turnaround there too. |
He was probably thinking about ETB being against the civil rights movement, and thinking that translated to him being against blacks receiving the priesthood. Harmless mistake. |
Hi, everyone–Thanks for your comments and your joint efforts in vindicating President Benson! I hope that no harm has been done. BBell–Thanks for referencing that wonderful article. I’ve read that description before, and I love it. What a truly pentacostal experience for the quorum of the 12 and First Presidency. queno–I agree that June 8 is probably a somewhat arbitrary designation of the date to celebrate–perhaps June 1 would be the better day. But June 8th is what I remember when I go to OD-2, so it’s close enough for me. Would you feel better if more attention were given to June 1? Karen and Dan Knudson–Thank you so much for sharing your stories. Dan, your experience is a type new to me. I’ve heard about the revelation, but I’ve never heard about the actual ordaining of these black brethren. Are these stories collected anywhere? It seems like they would be very valuable parts of Church history. |
I was… about a month old. I remember none of it. Thank you guys for sharing what you remember of it. On the one hand, I’m sorry I missed out on such an important occasion. On the other hand, I’m glad to have grown up in a church without the ban. I think of the lovely Jamaican sisters and brothers at church today and I’m glad for two things. One, that they can fully participate in the church. Two, that seeing them there is as perfectly natural to me as seeing that blond family from Utah. |
Thanks for this post, Naomi. I can see that reaction from your dad. He’s a good guy. Guy Noir writes,
That’s as accurate as your last statement, Guy. We’ve got various, relatively detailed sources on views regarding slavery and abolition in the early church. There are very good books on the topic, including Newell Bringhurst’s _Saints, Slaves, and Blacks_, Armand Mauss’s _All Abraham’s Children_, Bush and Mauss’s _Neither White Nor Black_. You’re right that there were shifting attitudes. But the idea that “some say” or that it’s all lost, is baffling and wrong. We can _read_ what Joseph Smith said about slavery and abolition in 1836, in 1842, in 1844. We can read W.W. Phelps’ editorial on free blacks. There’s a great chronology of events and documents at http://www.blacklds.org/history . Or, some of the well-known facts on attitudes of early church members and leaders towards slavery are summarized here: http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3837 . You’re 0 for 2 so far. Care to make any more misstatements? |
K. Wenger gives a brief comparison between contemporaneous LDS other religious attitudes (policies) regarding slavery/racism. me: How could a comparison between the ‘only true & living church’ and others be valuable? Oh well. In the T&S article, (she?) gives us this: One ‘might have thought’ that the attitude of a Prophet of God would be clear (plain) & consistent regarding as fundamental a question as the ‘ownership’ of one individual by another. It is ‘plain’ to me that church & JS statements & ‘positions’ (such as they were/weren’t) were influenced by those around them. It’s funny to me: On the most peripheral matters (appearance, others) Mormons sometimes come off as Nazis. Not ‘just me’, Right? |
Oh, and BTW, I apologize to the memory of ETB (gave us his pamphlet: “Civil Rights: Tool of Communist Deception”) for confusing him with HBL. |
Naomi– How do you propose going about ridding ourselves of racialist ideas? FWIW, I don’t think anyone is free of these ideas, although some are certainly less racist than others. ps–I suppose the people in the best position to be racialist generalization free is to have children of a different race and have that natural gift of parental love for them. Unfortunately, it is easy enough to think unkindly about “others” who you don’t reside with and nurture. |
I was in the kitchen of my Las Vegas apartment with the news on when the announcement came about the lifting of the ban. I cried. I was so glad because I was struggling more and more with the moral dilemma of staying in a church that I believed in, but considered racist (I’d become active in the church in 1973 and learned of the ban maybe a year later). I couldn’t reconcile my testimony of The First Vision and The Plan of Salvation with this policy that I disavowed and could make no sense of. Today, the sense I make of it is that it was clearly racist and echoed society’s condemnation of black people as being inherently inferior. The sense I make of it is that our leaders are human and flawed and they were wrong. Got my face ripped off in Sunday School for saying that. |
The Church just posted a new video on their Youtube channel (LDSPublicAffairs) in celebration of the 30th anniversary. It is a wonderful video that I thought others might be interested in. Perhaps it could be embedded at the bottom of the post? |
Guy: Didn’t we talk about these generalizations before? Please. |
I’ve always been interested in the fact that the apostles describe it differently. GBH, for instance, seems to go out of his way to dispel the “Pentecostal” experience, while LTomPerry describes it as such. I think they each felt it differently… |
for those with access, the church will be airing last week’s salt lake commemoration tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. on byu-tv and at 1:00 p.m. on kbyu-tv. that’s all the info i was given, so i’m guessing that’s mountain time? |