Comments on: Thoughts on the Democratic Convention http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm Thoughts and Asides by Peculiar People Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:50:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: SUNNofaB.C.Rich http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-120735 SUNNofaB.C.Rich Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:30:09 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-120735 pressure WASHING... not pressure cooking... what am I thinking? pressure WASHING… not pressure cooking… what am I thinking?

]]> By: pressure washing http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-119131 pressure washing Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:14:38 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-119131 I am confused about the waterboarding and wakeboarding confused,what it means really? I am confused about the waterboarding and wakeboarding confused,what it means really?

]]> By: SUNNofaB.C.Rich http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-117821 SUNNofaB.C.Rich Thu, 13 May 2010 04:15:20 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-117821 I always get waterboarding and wakeboarding confused... I always get waterboarding and wakeboarding confused…

]]> By: Kellie http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-107117 Kellie Wed, 13 May 2009 04:46:35 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-107117 Going back to one of your original comments, I support waterboarding 100%, we have no other choices in many cases. To see it is driving a wedge between our political parties ia a little upsetting <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/13/waterboardings-wake-widening/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/13/waterboardings-wake-widening/</a> but hopefully thigns will get worked out!! Going back to one of your original comments, I support waterboarding 100%, we have no other choices in many cases. To see it is driving a wedge between our political parties ia a little upsetting http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/13/waterboardings-wake-widening/ but hopefully thigns will get worked out!!

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-90429 Seth R. Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:03:29 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-90429 My experience is that lack of government interference simply means you are going to be interfered with by whoever has the biggest stick. My experience is that lack of government interference simply means you are going to be interfered with by whoever has the biggest stick.

]]> By: DKL http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-90427 DKL Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:25:29 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-90427 <b>ESO:</b> <i> sounds a lot like George is a typical ne’er do well, likely involved in substance abuse, and, not having contact with his own mother, a runaway or perhaps former abuser of his family.</i> You sound like a stereotypical, cold-hearted Republican here, because you are saying he's suffering because of his own choices. Liberals tend to cast such problems as diseases and syndromes -- they're never the result of one's own choices -- and parade tragic stories to manipulate us into supporting their government programs. The warm-hearted liberal should drop everything and rush to Africa to help him get his life aright. I could understand it if you said something like, "He seems fiercely independent and is unwilling to accept any help as he struggles to get through this period of his life and get back on his feet." But your assertion that he is where he is because of his own problems implies that Obama isn't obliged to help him. This seems to violate King Benjamin's counsel against blaming the poor for the position that they're in. Can I get you on record as saying that people who suffer from the disease of addiction and have abuse-related problems do not deserve our help? ESO: sounds a lot like George is a typical ne’er do well, likely involved in substance abuse, and, not having contact with his own mother, a runaway or perhaps former abuser of his family.

You sound like a stereotypical, cold-hearted Republican here, because you are saying he’s suffering because of his own choices. Liberals tend to cast such problems as diseases and syndromes — they’re never the result of one’s own choices — and parade tragic stories to manipulate us into supporting their government programs. The warm-hearted liberal should drop everything and rush to Africa to help him get his life aright.

I could understand it if you said something like, “He seems fiercely independent and is unwilling to accept any help as he struggles to get through this period of his life and get back on his feet.” But your assertion that he is where he is because of his own problems implies that Obama isn’t obliged to help him. This seems to violate King Benjamin’s counsel against blaming the poor for the position that they’re in.

Can I get you on record as saying that people who suffer from the disease of addiction and have abuse-related problems do not deserve our help?

]]> By: nasamomdele http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-90426 nasamomdele Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:13:37 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-90426 # 157 John, It seems like it might play better to say that he is self-made, which I think he is. But then he might not get a house in some Connecticut communities... # 157 John,

It seems like it might play better to say that he is self-made, which I think he is. But then he might not get a house in some Connecticut communities…

]]> By: DKL http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-90424 DKL Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:08:50 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-90424 ESO, I think that your "personal family affairs" shield would protect Obama as a legislator, a judicial nominee, or a cabinet member. But once you run for President, you lose that shield. I'm not saying this is right. It's just the way things are on both sides. You have prominent democrats like President Carter can say that McCain is "milking" his POW experience. It won't due to claim that a multimillionaire presidential candidates can't be held accountable for his treatment of siblings who live abroad it poverty. In any case, we can argue about whether his is a "personal family affair," but it's beside the point. Our discussion about this matter was prompted by your assertion that I was participating in racism and ugliness by making quips about Obama's relative living in a shack. I take this latest turn of your argument to concede that your initial assertion was incorrect. ESO, I think that your “personal family affairs” shield would protect Obama as a legislator, a judicial nominee, or a cabinet member. But once you run for President, you lose that shield. I’m not saying this is right. It’s just the way things are on both sides. You have prominent democrats like President Carter can say that McCain is “milking” his POW experience. It won’t due to claim that a multimillionaire presidential candidates can’t be held accountable for his treatment of siblings who live abroad it poverty.

In any case, we can argue about whether his is a “personal family affair,” but it’s beside the point. Our discussion about this matter was prompted by your assertion that I was participating in racism and ugliness by making quips about Obama’s relative living in a shack. I take this latest turn of your argument to concede that your initial assertion was incorrect.

]]> By: John Mansfield http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-90326 John Mansfield Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:20:25 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-90326 It's not Barack Obama's fault that he was born to a couple of lousy people, but it got pretty annoying to hear one convention speaker after another talking up his great heritage. At least no one ever tried to go on and on about what a great father Bill Clinton had. It’s not Barack Obama’s fault that he was born to a couple of lousy people, but it got pretty annoying to hear one convention speaker after another talking up his great heritage. At least no one ever tried to go on and on about what a great father Bill Clinton had.

]]> By: ESO http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/08/27/thoughts-on-the-convention.htm/comment-page-4#comment-90319 ESO Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:00:32 +0000 http://www.mormonmentality.org/?p=939#comment-90319 I would not venture into another family's personal affairs, but I could understand why Obama not feel a special allegiance to the other families his father abandoned him for. And reading between the lines of the article you supplied, it sounds a lot like George is a typical ne'er do well, likely involved in substance abuse, and, not having contact with his own mother, a runaway or perhaps former abuser of his family. Perhaps that sounds like a stretch, it was just the impression I got from the article. I would suggest that the other sibling you had erroneously linked to before would be in a MUCH better position to help George (understanding the culture, having physical access to him, and not having been abandoned by the mutual parent). I would not venture into another family’s personal affairs, but I could understand why Obama not feel a special allegiance to the other families his father abandoned him for.

And reading between the lines of the article you supplied, it sounds a lot like George is a typical ne’er do well, likely involved in substance abuse, and, not having contact with his own mother, a runaway or perhaps former abuser of his family. Perhaps that sounds like a stretch, it was just the impression I got from the article.

I would suggest that the other sibling you had erroneously linked to before would be in a MUCH better position to help George (understanding the culture, having physical access to him, and not having been abandoned by the mutual parent).

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