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	<title>Comments on: LDS-EXpress &#8211; Coming Soon to Mass Transit Ad Space Near You</title>
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		<title>By: Paroled from the Primary Presidency</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paroled from the Primary Presidency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heyâ€”I think Orwell has found the way to get my husband to become a card-carrying Mormon! Even though he&#039;s opposed to tithing of any kind (and he thinks taking it as a tax write off works &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; the original sacrifice) he might be willing to acquiesce if he can play World of Warcraft while attending a virtual Sacrament Meeting. It&#039;s much harder to disagree with the tenants of a religion when you&#039;re only giving it about 3% of your attention.

And was Orwell insinuating that being &quot;Sunday School President&quot; will &quot;elevate your status in the eyes of men&quot;? Since when is this an elevation? Don&#039;t people run from that calling like they do nursery leader? ; )  I&#039;ve always maintained that serving in leadership positions basically mean you have more to learn than those humbly cleaning up after rug-rats every Sunday. If God is willing, I learned everything about humility that I needed to know by serving as RS President for 11 1/2 months. [Stay posted as I am sure I will now be extended a humility-driven calling any minute for this statement!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heyâ€”I think Orwell has found the way to get my husband to become a card-carrying Mormon! Even though he&#8217;s opposed to tithing of any kind (and he thinks taking it as a tax write off works <i>against</i> the original sacrifice) he might be willing to acquiesce if he can play World of Warcraft while attending a virtual Sacrament Meeting. It&#8217;s much harder to disagree with the tenants of a religion when you&#8217;re only giving it about 3% of your attention.</p>
<p>And was Orwell insinuating that being &#8220;Sunday School President&#8221; will &#8220;elevate your status in the eyes of men&#8221;? Since when is this an elevation? Don&#8217;t people run from that calling like they do nursery leader? ; )  I&#8217;ve always maintained that serving in leadership positions basically mean you have more to learn than those humbly cleaning up after rug-rats every Sunday. If God is willing, I learned everything about humility that I needed to know by serving as RS President for 11 1/2 months. [Stay posted as I am sure I will now be extended a humility-driven calling any minute for this statement!]</p>
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		<title>By: Orwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tagore&lt;/strong&gt;:  Your ward choir director sounds absolutely brilliant.  Any choir director worth his or her salt knows that is the only way to get any results out of such a ragtag band of misfits (metaphorically speaking, of course).  This isn&#039;t a case of absolute power corrupting absolutely, but rather an instance of the cream rising to the top.  So, no, not an extension member.  Probably one of the 144,000, actually.

&lt;strong&gt;annegb&lt;/strong&gt;, &quot;commercializing God&quot; hits the nail on the head.

&lt;strong&gt;DKL&lt;/strong&gt;, in my own little world, I like to think that, for those few moments that you are rolling on the floor, you can have respite from that constant preoccupation with politics.

&lt;strong&gt;Bookslinger&lt;/strong&gt;, I&#039;ll take that as a compliment.  Great to know I&#039;ll have something to fall back on if supreme ruler of the earth doesn&#039;t work out for me.  Those two things dovetail rather nicely, don&#039;t you think?

&lt;strong&gt;Bro. Jones&lt;/strong&gt;:  Of course you can surf in another window.  Think Saturday sessions of General Conference.  And, well, Primary, you can forget about that.  The Perfecting the Saints Committee needs backup members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tagore</strong>:  Your ward choir director sounds absolutely brilliant.  Any choir director worth his or her salt knows that is the only way to get any results out of such a ragtag band of misfits (metaphorically speaking, of course).  This isn&#8217;t a case of absolute power corrupting absolutely, but rather an instance of the cream rising to the top.  So, no, not an extension member.  Probably one of the 144,000, actually.</p>
<p><strong>annegb</strong>, &#8220;commercializing God&#8221; hits the nail on the head.</p>
<p><strong>DKL</strong>, in my own little world, I like to think that, for those few moments that you are rolling on the floor, you can have respite from that constant preoccupation with politics.</p>
<p><strong>Bookslinger</strong>, I&#8217;ll take that as a compliment.  Great to know I&#8217;ll have something to fall back on if supreme ruler of the earth doesn&#8217;t work out for me.  Those two things dovetail rather nicely, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p><strong>Bro. Jones</strong>:  Of course you can surf in another window.  Think Saturday sessions of General Conference.  And, well, Primary, you can forget about that.  The Perfecting the Saints Committee needs backup members.</p>
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		<title>By: Bro. Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bro. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If LDS-EXpress will let me attend Sacrament Meeting online (i.e. websurf in another window while the talks go on in the background), then I fully support it.  And if I could conduct Primary by instant messenger...

No, no.  Just kidding. I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If LDS-EXpress will let me attend Sacrament Meeting online (i.e. websurf in another window while the talks go on in the background), then I fully support it.  And if I could conduct Primary by instant messenger&#8230;</p>
<p>No, no.  Just kidding. I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orwell, you have that marketing lingo down pat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orwell, you have that marketing lingo down pat.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tagore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orwell (7): Interesting. I wonder if this is also true of ward choir directors. I have a friend who has the Kim Jong Il of ward choir directors. He&#039;s a self-proclaimed tyrant that actually refers to himself as &quot;Dear Leader.&quot; Clearly he&#039;s an Extension Stake member that has infiltrated our ranks? Or is this an authentic LDS ward choir director exhibiting the &quot;absolute power corrupts absolutely&quot; axiom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orwell (7): Interesting. I wonder if this is also true of ward choir directors. I have a friend who has the Kim Jong Il of ward choir directors. He&#8217;s a self-proclaimed tyrant that actually refers to himself as &#8220;Dear Leader.&#8221; Clearly he&#8217;s an Extension Stake member that has infiltrated our ranks? Or is this an authentic LDS ward choir director exhibiting the &#8220;absolute power corrupts absolutely&#8221; axiom?</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been clicking on some of those gospel channels and have noticed that they all ask for money.  Maybe they consider that tithing, but it seems to commercialize God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been clicking on some of those gospel channels and have noticed that they all ask for money.  Maybe they consider that tithing, but it seems to commercialize God.</p>
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		<title>By: Orwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Tagore, now that I think more about your question, it worries me even less.  Illusions like this usually break down pretty quickly under the flimsiest of interrogations.

For example, I have a friend that used to work for the &quot;State Department of Early Education and Care.&quot;  He thought this made him sound like a sissy, so he would routinely tell people that inquired about his employment that he worked for the &quot;Department of Education.&quot;  He even went out of his way to avoid using official stationary, such was his aversion to his employer and their official logo (the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eec.state.ma.us/docs/EEC_FactSheet.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happle&lt;/a&gt;, I believe it was called, a Frakenstein monster of a thing, the result of unethical genetic experiments that created grotesque animal-plant hybrids).

Needless to say, he never fooled anyone that actually worked for the Department of Education.  He didn&#039;t fool many other people either, so porous was his web of lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Tagore, now that I think more about your question, it worries me even less.  Illusions like this usually break down pretty quickly under the flimsiest of interrogations.</p>
<p>For example, I have a friend that used to work for the &#8220;State Department of Early Education and Care.&#8221;  He thought this made him sound like a sissy, so he would routinely tell people that inquired about his employment that he worked for the &#8220;Department of Education.&#8221;  He even went out of his way to avoid using official stationary, such was his aversion to his employer and their official logo (the <a href="http://www.eec.state.ma.us/docs/EEC_FactSheet.pdf" rel="nofollow">Happle</a>, I believe it was called, a Frakenstein monster of a thing, the result of unethical genetic experiments that created grotesque animal-plant hybrids).</p>
<p>Needless to say, he never fooled anyone that actually worked for the Department of Education.  He didn&#8217;t fool many other people either, so porous was his web of lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Orwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tagore:&lt;/strong&gt; Well, obviously the whole draw of LDS-EXpress is the ability to masquerade as a full-fledged member. Iâ€™m not sure about in-fighting, though. Real members could spot an Extension member a mile away (that Penguin Classics Edition of the Book of Mormon is a dead giveaway). Iâ€™m sure a hierarchy or caste system would naturally evolve.

&lt;strong&gt;John W:&lt;/strong&gt; No, thereâ€™s no prohibition against caffeinated drinks. Extension Members need to keep up the appearance of being Mormon, so cola drinks and anything coffee flavored are out (i.e. coffee-flavored jelly beans, even if it is with the bishop, Tagore), but caffeine is fine. There is no spirit of the law here. Besides, youâ€™re missing the great loophole of the â€œany five commandmentsâ€ clause. Just leave that â€œThou shalt not bear false witnessâ€ off your list, and it makes it a lot easier to whitewash the sepulchre. (P.S. Devyn S., thatâ€™ll help you get over the tithing rate as well.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tagore:</strong> Well, obviously the whole draw of LDS-EXpress is the ability to masquerade as a full-fledged member. Iâ€™m not sure about in-fighting, though. Real members could spot an Extension member a mile away (that Penguin Classics Edition of the Book of Mormon is a dead giveaway). Iâ€™m sure a hierarchy or caste system would naturally evolve.</p>
<p><strong>John W:</strong> No, thereâ€™s no prohibition against caffeinated drinks. Extension Members need to keep up the appearance of being Mormon, so cola drinks and anything coffee flavored are out (i.e. coffee-flavored jelly beans, even if it is with the bishop, Tagore), but caffeine is fine. There is no spirit of the law here. Besides, youâ€™re missing the great loophole of the â€œany five commandmentsâ€ clause. Just leave that â€œThou shalt not bear false witnessâ€ off your list, and it makes it a lot easier to whitewash the sepulchre. (P.S. Devyn S., thatâ€™ll help you get over the tithing rate as well.)</p>
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		<title>By: DKL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROTFLMAO. My favorite part: Real callings like â€œAlternate Member of the Elders Quorum Committee for Perfecting the Saints,â€ and â€œSunday School President.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROTFLMAO. My favorite part: Real callings like â€œAlternate Member of the Elders Quorum Committee for Perfecting the Saints,â€ and â€œSunday School President.â€</p>
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		<title>By: Jon W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm certainly have to negotiate on the the idea of no caffeinated drinks.  Otherwise, I have been some of those callings.  Ah the Redeeming the Dead committee, I know it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm certainly have to negotiate on the the idea of no caffeinated drinks.  Otherwise, I have been some of those callings.  Ah the Redeeming the Dead committee, I know it well.</p>
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