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I’m curious? |
Sorry. Ignore the first question mark. |
I live near Rexburg, Idaho and I have had an Obama sign up since October 2007. The first day it disappeared. Turned out my five year old took it down to use the polls as swords. While I have had some sign beaten down by the Rexburg wind, my neighbors have been cordial about it. |
Tim, I live in Sandy, UT. A few weeks ago our EQ president was talking to me and expressed his surprise that there are Obama supporters in the ward. He says this is the first time he’s lived in a ward where, “everybody doesn’t have the same views politically.” I found that to be a surprising statement. |
ARJ, in my neighborhood, it seems like every other house has an obama sign. To avoid McCain supporters from stealing my sign, I stuck it in the window. And now that I think of it, I’m gonna see if my ward mates have signs. Interesting to see how that plays out. ps.I have yet to see a McCain/Palin sign in my very middle class neighborhood. |
I don’t do yard signs, but I’ve had 2 Bush/Cheney bumper stickers and 1 NRA sticker pealed off of my cars while sitting in our driveway. Another NRA bumper sticker was half-torn off within the last week. That was in Massachusetts. Our McCain stickers are the kind that you put on the inside of a car window, rather than the outside. My brother lives in Northern Virginia, and he awoke to find his Bush yard sign put on his doorstep with a dead deer atop it. Stealing or destroying Republican stuff is probably more common here is Massachusetts, and stealing Democratic stuff is probably more common in Utah. Most probably because the teenagers who do the vandalism are influenced by their parents’ views. But, like Democratic voter fraud, it takes place everywhere. Incidentally, when your EQP said, “everybody doesn’t have the same views politically,” did he mean that many of my political views aren’t the same as other political views that I have? or did he man that many of my political views aren’t the same as ones that other people have? |
DKL, I apologize for the odd sentence structure. The EQP’s point was that he found it strange there are members of our ward that are not Republican. He is a Republican and has in the past felt that his fellow ward members all held the same political views that he has. |
DKL, I should add that while I knew you’d bring up that story, I still feel badly for your brother, his sign, and the deer, but probably not in that order. |
Around here, it’s definately the McCain signs that get trashed. I’ve even seen a thank you sign to our troops defaced. |
sound the trumpets…i agree with dkl. |
Our current Obama sign hasn’t been stolen. Our first one was, but we bought a few more, in case theft #1 was repeated. Maybe the little note attached in the corner has worked. (“If you steal this sign, it’s more money for the Obama campaign, sucker.”) Or it could be that Obama signs are blossoming in my neighborhood – quite a surprise, IMHO. |
#6: You can’t have “voter fraud” until people start to vote. You must mean registration fraud”(?) |
oh bob, haven’t you learned? tsk tsk tsk |
I live in an anomalous corner of a heavily Democratic county where a lot of police live. Every street has one or two police cars sitting in driveways. The yard signs run about 90% for McCain, and no one messes with them or much else. |
Our Obama sign was taken and smashed against our tree, which really pissed me off because it scraped the bark off on a tree that’s only three years old. Also the person that smashed it left a footprint about 3 inches bigger than mine, so I’m pretty sure it was an adult. We didn’t buy a second one, the Obama campaign has made it pretty clear that they think yard signs are worthless, so I just donated the amount for a second one straight to the campaign. I don’t think the person that smashed it knew much about the political candidates, because he left another sign alone that was for a local candidate, and it didn’t say what party he belonged too (something Democrats seem to do a lot around here). One of our neighbors remarked that we must not want to be invited to neighborhood gatherings if we were putting the Obama sign up. It was really annoying. I can’t wait for this election to be over, then I’ll only have to hear complaining when he makes a Presidential decision that hurt Mormons, hunting or abortion, which I assume won’t happen much. |
#15: “I can’t wait for this election to be over.” The 2012 election starts the next day! |
Ouch. That stinks. I’ve heard similar stories. While I was living in Rexburg, I went to the Democratic Caucus in March of this year. I heard some horror stories (people almost run off the road by other drivers) about having Obama supporting material on, around, etc. their homes, cars, backpacks, etc. |
Ugh, don’t say that. At least we have a couple of years of people focusing on mid-term elections before they start parading Palin around as their Presidential candidate for 2012. |
what? you mean that’s all i had to do to get my neighbors to leave me alone? no more home teacher visits? excellent. seriously. did your neighbor think she was being kind and helpful by making a statement like that? _sigh_ |
I actually haven’t seen any presidential signs in yards where I live. I’ve seen lots of signs for people running for local offices on fences at street corners. Best one ever? Hand painted “VOTE FOR OPRAH.” |
I live on a big corner block on a main street and I will let whoever wants to put a sign up. I have never voted straight ticket so it represents me, and I believe that signs have zero effect on voting. That said I did have my Norm Coleman sign removed (running against Al Franken), but that was by my wife. He totally lost her by voting for the bailout plan. If you google “Norm Coleman Sucks” her blog turns up in the top ten. |
ARJ, Dude, it wasn’t me this time. Ann’s sign has made me turn over a new leaf… |
This post would be better if in song form, perhaps to the tune of “Candle In the Wind”: Goodbye ‘bama Sign Even in the windstorm And it seems to me as slogans go And I would have liked to have kept you |
McCan/Palin signs look like Charlie Brown’s Christmas tree. |
My state is blue, so I see significantly fewer McCain/Palin signs. I noticed one a while ago at a certain house, and the very next day it was gone. The next time I passed, they had hand-painted signs out that read “WE ARE STILL VOTING FOR MCCAIN EVEN THOUGH YOU STOLE OUR SIGN.” That made me laugh. They have a new sign out, that has lasted a few weeks. Also, just last week I heard on the local news that a man here had been arrested for stealing signs. People had seen him taking McCain/Palin signs down, so called 911 and reported his plate number. When police pulled him over, they found his back seat full of signs for McCain and the Cub Scouts. That is a man of passion! |
Steve Evans, ROTFLMAO! That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen on the ‘nacle in a long time! |
niblet nomination alert! comment of the year? |
I’m not going to vote for Obama, but I had a devilish thought — stick a sign on the ward parking lot before the first sacrament meeting, and see how long it stays… |
In lovely, tolerant Denver, Colorado, having a McCain or other Republican candidates’ stickers on your car, or signs in front of your house is asking not only for theft, but vandalism to your property as well. |
Ooohhh, now that’s an idea. |
I put up a replacement sign today. Seven hours later it is gone. |
arJ–maybe you are simply converting your neighbors and they want the signs for their own yards. |
Given what I here from his supporters, maybe the Obama signs are being translated. |
The comments here just goes to show that vandalism and respect for others, is a problem on both sides of the political spectrum. No wonder people like me are sick of the whole process. |
#34: There may be vandalism on both sides, But Obama has thousands of signs, McCain only three. |
I live in SC and my sign recently got stolen. I told everyone it was stolen by “anti-democracy activists” — what else would you call it? My husband was so irked he joked about putting our OTHER Obama sign in the yard and hooking up an electric current to it. Just in case. . . Okay, so that probably isn’t a good idea. We put it in the front window instead. |
#36: Story: a farmer was having his watermelons stolen. So he put up a sign, “One of these melon is poison”. It work about a week. Then an unknown party put a second sign in the patch, “Two of these melon are poison.” |
Comment #35 is case and point of Comment #34. #34, Amen. |
Maybe the earth is swallowing up these valuable signs because of the unrighteousness of their owners. |
Furthermore, the sealed portion of the plates is the record of Pahoran, Paanchi and Pacumeni’s fourth debate, the one that was so boring that Paanchi started half-way through to dream up much more lively ways to become chief judge. |
According to the Salt Lake Tribue there are 7,500 Obama signs in Utah and 3,000 McCain signs. Make that 7,498. |
Electrical currents…pure genius. |
When I go to work and take the off ramp in Parowan, there’s a long, maybe two mile road before you enter the city proper. Somebody supports Obama and has put I don’t know how many Obama signs along that road. I haven’t been counting, but they’re always still there. If I put up an Obama sign, my neighbors would think I did it just to be contrary. They’d think “That Arlene, she’s a pain in the ****. We all know she’s voting for McCain.” Nobody would take it down, they’d just be scornful. Bill would be embarrassed, yet again, and maybe once again, overlooked for a priesthood calling due to his crazy wife. You know, southern Utah is a tough place, honestly, in terms of conformity and judging and repercussions religiously. You watch, I just might write in Chris Rock. |
My McCain sign was abused last night. It is damaged but still there. Link to the exciting photo :-) http://applechapel.blogspot.com/2008/10/democrats-are-party-of-civility.html |
http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2008/10/20/anti-mccain-vandalism-hits-maryland/ The wave of vandalism targeting supporters of presidential candidate John McCain isn’t just limited to South Carolina, as we experienced last weekend when thugs sprayed graffiti all over the York County GOP headquarters, nor is it limited to Republicans. At some point during the wee hours of the morning, supporters of opponent Barack Obama attacked a private home in Prince George’s County, Md., defacing the house, an RV, a truck cover, and a two foot by eight foot yard sign. Apparently, the home owner was a registered Democrat and the local Obama fans were none to pleased with his decision to back McCain. |
I live just off a major thoroughfare in Northern California and it’s been kind of amusing to see how many “Yes on Prop 8″ signs have been stolen over the last few weeks. One of my neighbors has had it happen multiple times, so they attached one on the power pole adjacent to their yard high enough that a ladder or vehicle is required to take it down. |
The local paper did a story last week about a vandalized Obama sign. It looked like somebody came in with an ax and chopped it up. The truth is, that in Utah, the only reason for putting up an Obama sign is to show rebellion or dissent from the norm. It may be that a particular person (ie, my type of guy) would feel the need to celebrate and publicize their dissent. But for the most part, putting up an Obama sign wouldn’t achieve name recognition or encourage anyone to vote for him. It would only increase animosity, so it would probably get the opposite of the usual intended result of a campaign sign. So, if you really want to support Obama, at least in southern Utah, you’d be better to be quiet about it. Not out of fear, but out of lessening the contention. Bill and I supported opposite candidates for something last year, I think. We put both signs on our lawn. |
annegb, My sign was a great conversation starter. It has probably also served to tone down some of the rhetoric at Church. |
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#47. What about the freedom of speech? Dissent is of the minority somes times becomes majority . Contention is not the dissenter but mobocracy. I am sure the person who put up the Obama sign was not in an illusion to change some votes but standing up for his or her beliefs. Since when supporting our President is a contentious matter. Our LDS leaders think otherwise-not so much supporting his policies but being open in engaging the powers at be. Being quite about it or you will be inspire rebellion sounds like what is going on Iran. Surely southern Utah majority can show some tolerance toward those who are out side of norm. Our Founding Fathers dissented against King George which brought on our revolution. Happy 4th July. PS. I am glad there were two signs on your lawn. I voted for Obama yet I am having serious difficulties concerning his run amuck almost 2 trillion dollar deficit spending. I have been a life long Democract but now I am seeing myself outside the norm of my leftist blogger LDS friends. My dissent is moving toward as an Independent voter. . |
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Obama is not given enough credit. No President in history has been faced with so many challenges: two wars, terrible economy, high unemployment, deregulated industries, corporate/political greed, lost of prestige around the world, and personal hate. Now most of the media have been fair with him except of course Fox News. Their bias towards him mostly by those morning show kuckleheads, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and on occasions Bill O”Reilly no matter what he does they can’t find it in them to praise him. He gets $20 billion dollars to ensure people are not left out in the cold by BP and they read it as a power grab. Had George Bush done it they would hail it as him doing what’s best for the people. Then you get to their lame reason like it is unconstituional. As if Sarah Palin did a day in law school, our President taught constituional law!! I would trust him to know his responsibilities as President better than these wanna be Perry Masons. In the end, these people who hate OUR PRESIDENT will regret the day that they didn’t embrace this man of character and fortitude. He is the right man for this job and the only one who could have handled all these challenges and keep his head. |
“No president…” Um except his predecessor you mean, right? Two wars: Iraq was/is winding down since the Surge which Democrats, including then-Senator Obama opposed; the violence in Afghanistan has exceeded levels known in the previous administration (the number of military casualties nearly doubled in 18 months compared to 6 years). Terrible economy: umm, remember the sluggish economy after the dot com bubble burst, then the crippling attacks of September 11, 2001? High Unemployment: I thought the stimulus was going to keep unemployment at 8%? How’s that working? Deregulated industries, corporate/political greed, lost of prestige around the world, and personal hate: Yes, all of that was manufactured by the previous administration and didn’t exist at all before. Anytime a Democrat is in the White House, it’s sunshine and roses. Anytime a Republican is in the White House we truly are in the End Times. “Now most of the media have been fair with him…” Fair in this case meaning “biased towards him where they would have been biased against his predecessor.” Where’s the Katrina like outrage among the newsies over BP pouring millions of barrels of oil into the gulf from an oil rig that President Obama waived a required environmental analysis for. President Obama rejected Dutch offers for help in the clean up in the first few days, only to change his mind 50 days later. Yes, he got a $20b. promise from BP, but what assurances and oversight are there that the money will be paid to those in the Gulf who need it most? Already there are complaints about second round applications for assistance going unanswered. For all the bravado about his handling of the Gulf disaster, he sure is disappointing in a post-partisan manner. And as was pointed out for 8 years by everyone from Nancy Pelosi to the the HuffPo chorus, “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” Disagreement is not “hate.” It’s amusing to see the left have to endure the venomous rhetoric they spewed for 8 years turned back on them. |
