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		<title>By: Bull_Moose</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/10/15/goodbye-obama-sign.htm/comment-page-2#comment-119939</link>
		<dc:creator>Bull_Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No president...&quot; Um except his predecessor you mean, right?

Two wars: Iraq was/is winding down since the Surge which Democrats, including then-Senator Obama opposed; the violence in Afghanistan has exceeded levels known in the previous administration (the number of military casualties nearly doubled in 18 months compared to 6 years).

Terrible economy: umm, remember the sluggish economy after the dot com bubble burst, then the crippling attacks of September 11, 2001?

High Unemployment: I thought the stimulus was going to keep unemployment at 8%? How&#039;s that working?

Deregulated industries, corporate/political greed, lost of prestige around the world, and personal hate: Yes, all of that was manufactured by the previous administration and didn&#039;t exist at all before. Anytime a Democrat is in the White House, it&#039;s sunshine and roses. Anytime a Republican is in the White House we truly are in the End Times.

&quot;Now most of the media have been fair with him...&quot; Fair in this case meaning &quot;biased towards him where they would have been biased against his predecessor.&quot; Where&#039;s the Katrina like outrage among the newsies over BP pouring millions of barrels of oil into the gulf from an oil rig that President Obama waived a required environmental analysis for. President Obama rejected Dutch offers for help in the clean up in the first few days, only to change his mind 50 days later.

Yes, he got a $20b. promise from BP, but what assurances and oversight are there that the money will be paid to those in the Gulf who need it most? Already there are complaints about second round applications for assistance going unanswered.  For all the bravado about his handling of the Gulf disaster, he sure is disappointing in a post-partisan manner.

And as was pointed out for 8 years by everyone from Nancy Pelosi to the the HuffPo chorus, &quot;Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.&quot; Disagreement is not &quot;hate.&quot; It&#039;s amusing to see the left have to endure the venomous rhetoric they spewed for 8 years turned back on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No president&#8230;&#8221; Um except his predecessor you mean, right?</p>
<p>Two wars: Iraq was/is winding down since the Surge which Democrats, including then-Senator Obama opposed; the violence in Afghanistan has exceeded levels known in the previous administration (the number of military casualties nearly doubled in 18 months compared to 6 years).</p>
<p>Terrible economy: umm, remember the sluggish economy after the dot com bubble burst, then the crippling attacks of September 11, 2001?</p>
<p>High Unemployment: I thought the stimulus was going to keep unemployment at 8%? How&#8217;s that working?</p>
<p>Deregulated industries, corporate/political greed, lost of prestige around the world, and personal hate: Yes, all of that was manufactured by the previous administration and didn&#8217;t exist at all before. Anytime a Democrat is in the White House, it&#8217;s sunshine and roses. Anytime a Republican is in the White House we truly are in the End Times.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now most of the media have been fair with him&#8230;&#8221; Fair in this case meaning &#8220;biased towards him where they would have been biased against his predecessor.&#8221; Where&#8217;s the Katrina like outrage among the newsies over BP pouring millions of barrels of oil into the gulf from an oil rig that President Obama waived a required environmental analysis for. President Obama rejected Dutch offers for help in the clean up in the first few days, only to change his mind 50 days later.</p>
<p>Yes, he got a $20b. promise from BP, but what assurances and oversight are there that the money will be paid to those in the Gulf who need it most? Already there are complaints about second round applications for assistance going unanswered.  For all the bravado about his handling of the Gulf disaster, he sure is disappointing in a post-partisan manner.</p>
<p>And as was pointed out for 8 years by everyone from Nancy Pelosi to the the HuffPo chorus, &#8220;Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.&#8221; Disagreement is not &#8220;hate.&#8221; It&#8217;s amusing to see the left have to endure the venomous rhetoric they spewed for 8 years turned back on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Secret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is not given enough credit. No President in history has been faced with so many challenges: two wars, terrible economy, high unemployment, deregulated industries, corporate/political greed, lost of prestige around the world, and personal hate. Now most of the media have been fair with him except of course Fox News. Their bias towards him mostly by those morning show kuckleheads, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and on occasions Bill O&quot;Reilly no matter what he does they can&#039;t find it in them to praise him. He gets $20 billion dollars to ensure people are not left out in the cold by BP and they read it as a power grab. Had George Bush done it they would hail it as him doing what&#039;s best for the people. Then you get to their lame reason like it is unconstituional. As if Sarah Palin did a day in law school, our President taught constituional law!! I would trust him to know his responsibilities as President better than these wanna be Perry Masons. In the end, these people who hate OUR PRESIDENT will regret the day that they didn&#039;t embrace this man of character and fortitude. He is the right man for this job and the only one who could have handled all these challenges and keep his head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is not given enough credit. No President in history has been faced with so many challenges: two wars, terrible economy, high unemployment, deregulated industries, corporate/political greed, lost of prestige around the world, and personal hate. Now most of the media have been fair with him except of course Fox News. Their bias towards him mostly by those morning show kuckleheads, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and on occasions Bill O&#8221;Reilly no matter what he does they can&#8217;t find it in them to praise him. He gets $20 billion dollars to ensure people are not left out in the cold by BP and they read it as a power grab. Had George Bush done it they would hail it as him doing what&#8217;s best for the people. Then you get to their lame reason like it is unconstituional. As if Sarah Palin did a day in law school, our President taught constituional law!! I would trust him to know his responsibilities as President better than these wanna be Perry Masons. In the end, these people who hate OUR PRESIDENT will regret the day that they didn&#8217;t embrace this man of character and fortitude. He is the right man for this job and the only one who could have handled all these challenges and keep his head.</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 Niblets: Rock the Vote Here! at Mormon Matters</title>
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		<dc:creator>2008 Niblets: Rock the Vote Here! at Mormon Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Evans â€œGoodbye Obamaâ€ to the tune of â€œCandle In the Windâ€ comment #23 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: B tippets</title>
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		<dc:creator>B tippets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47.  What about the freedom of speech?  Dissent is of the minority somes times becomes majority .  Contention is not the dissenter but mobocracy. I am sure the person who put up the Obama sign was not in an illusion to change some votes but standing up for his or her beliefs.  Since when supporting our President is a contentious matter.  Our LDS leaders think otherwise-not so much supporting his policies but being open in engaging the powers at be.

Being quite about it or you will be inspire rebellion sounds like what is going on Iran. Surely southern Utah majority can show some tolerance toward those who are out side of norm. 

Our Founding Fathers dissented against King George which brought on our revolution. Happy 4th July.

PS.  I am glad there were two signs on your lawn.  I voted for Obama  yet I am having serious difficulties concerning his run amuck almost 2 trillion dollar deficit spending. I have been a life long Democract but now I am seeing myself outside the norm of my leftist blogger LDS friends. My dissent is moving toward as an Independent voter.                    .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47.  What about the freedom of speech?  Dissent is of the minority somes times becomes majority .  Contention is not the dissenter but mobocracy. I am sure the person who put up the Obama sign was not in an illusion to change some votes but standing up for his or her beliefs.  Since when supporting our President is a contentious matter.  Our LDS leaders think otherwise-not so much supporting his policies but being open in engaging the powers at be.</p>
<p>Being quite about it or you will be inspire rebellion sounds like what is going on Iran. Surely southern Utah majority can show some tolerance toward those who are out side of norm. </p>
<p>Our Founding Fathers dissented against King George which brought on our revolution. Happy 4th July.</p>
<p>PS.  I am glad there were two signs on your lawn.  I voted for Obama  yet I am having serious difficulties concerning his run amuck almost 2 trillion dollar deficit spending. I have been a life long Democract but now I am seeing myself outside the norm of my leftist blogger LDS friends. My dissent is moving toward as an Independent voter.                    .</p>
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		<title>By: Last Chance for Niblet Nominations at Mormon Matters</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonmentality.org/2008/10/15/goodbye-obama-sign.htm/comment-page-1#comment-108942</link>
		<dc:creator>Last Chance for Niblet Nominations at Mormon Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #72 Ryan comment #19 Steve Evans comment #994 on â€œPolice Beat Roundtable #10â€ Steve Evans comment #23 TStevens comment [...]</description>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
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		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annegb,

My sign was a great conversation starter.  It has probably also served to tone down some of the rhetoric at Church.</description>
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<p>My sign was a great conversation starter.  It has probably also served to tone down some of the rhetoric at Church.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local paper did a story last week about a vandalized Obama sign.  It looked like somebody came in with an ax and chopped it up.  The truth is, that in Utah, the only reason for putting up an Obama sign is to show rebellion or dissent from the norm.  It may be that a particular person (ie, my type of guy) would feel the need to celebrate and publicize their dissent.  But for the most part, putting up an Obama sign wouldn&#039;t achieve name recognition or encourage anyone to vote for him.  It would only increase animosity, so it would probably get the opposite of the usual intended result of a campaign sign.  So, if you really want to support Obama, at least in southern Utah, you&#039;d be better to be quiet about it.  Not out of fear, but out of lessening the contention.

Bill and I supported opposite candidates for something last year, I think.  We put both signs on our lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local paper did a story last week about a vandalized Obama sign.  It looked like somebody came in with an ax and chopped it up.  The truth is, that in Utah, the only reason for putting up an Obama sign is to show rebellion or dissent from the norm.  It may be that a particular person (ie, my type of guy) would feel the need to celebrate and publicize their dissent.  But for the most part, putting up an Obama sign wouldn&#8217;t achieve name recognition or encourage anyone to vote for him.  It would only increase animosity, so it would probably get the opposite of the usual intended result of a campaign sign.  So, if you really want to support Obama, at least in southern Utah, you&#8217;d be better to be quiet about it.  Not out of fear, but out of lessening the contention.</p>
<p>Bill and I supported opposite candidates for something last year, I think.  We put both signs on our lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live just off a major thoroughfare in Northern California and it&#039;s been kind of amusing to see how many &quot;Yes on Prop 8&quot; signs have been stolen over the last few weeks.  One of my neighbors has had it happen multiple times, so they attached one on the power pole adjacent to their yard high enough that a ladder or vehicle is required to take it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live just off a major thoroughfare in Northern California and it&#8217;s been kind of amusing to see how many &#8220;Yes on Prop 8&#8243; signs have been stolen over the last few weeks.  One of my neighbors has had it happen multiple times, so they attached one on the power pole adjacent to their yard high enough that a ladder or vehicle is required to take it down.</p>
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		<title>By: John P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2008/10/20/anti-mccain-vandalism-hits-maryland/

&lt;i&gt;The wave of vandalism targeting supporters of presidential candidate John McCain isnâ€™t just limited to South Carolina, as we experienced last weekend when thugs sprayed graffiti all over the York County GOP headquarters, nor is it limited to Republicans.

At some point during the wee hours of the morning, supporters of opponent Barack Obama attacked a private home in Prince Georgeâ€™s County, Md., defacing the house, an RV, a truck cover, and a two foot by eight foot yard sign. Apparently, the home owner was a registered Democrat and the local Obama fans were none to pleased with his decision to back McCain.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p><i>The wave of vandalism targeting supporters of presidential candidate John McCain isnâ€™t just limited to South Carolina, as we experienced last weekend when thugs sprayed graffiti all over the York County GOP headquarters, nor is it limited to Republicans.</p>
<p>At some point during the wee hours of the morning, supporters of opponent Barack Obama attacked a private home in Prince Georgeâ€™s County, Md., defacing the house, an RV, a truck cover, and a two foot by eight foot yard sign. Apparently, the home owner was a registered Democrat and the local Obama fans were none to pleased with his decision to back McCain.</i></p>
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		<title>By: TStevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>TStevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My McCain sign was abused last night.  It is damaged but still there.

Link to the exciting photo :-)

http://applechapel.blogspot.com/2008/10/democrats-are-party-of-civility.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My McCain sign was abused last night.  It is damaged but still there.</p>
<p>Link to the exciting photo :-)</p>
<p><a href="http://applechapel.blogspot.com/2008/10/democrats-are-party-of-civility.html" rel="nofollow">http://applechapel.blogspot.com/2008/10/democrats-are-party-of-civility.html</a></p>
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