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Um, what? I think I’m not catching the point/idea of this article, other than mocking the HCO, which gets mocked much more than it deserves. |
Better drag Tom in for a talk, and this time don’t keep Len on his leash. I confess I made it past the pamphlets, refreshments, and female lunch-fetchers, all the way to the binoculars, before I was completely sure what you were doing. Very, very good. |
This is the best exposé of the standards office I’ve ever heard. Too bad most people will think you’re only kidding. Tom Rod: …the HCO, which gets mocked much more than it deserves. Actually, it’s impossible to mock the HCO more than it deserves. |
In real life (on separate occasions), I was briefly a member of the HCC, and was hauled into the HCC to account for my crimes. I found both equally enlightening, particularly when BYU wouldn’t release the names of arrested sex offenders on campus. |
The circumstances of my inquisition were fairly benign. I was involved in an employment dispute with a former off-campus employer, and then I saw the job posting in the TMCB for my old position. Being in a foul mood over the check they had not sent, I tore down the job posting. Unfortunately, someone else at the company saw me do it from a distance and turned me in. (This was during Christmas break.) My inquisitor apologized for wasting my time and reinstated my class schedule for the next semester. |
And the masterminds that brought us Polish with Pleasure are at last revealed… |
Tom Rod, to borrow a popular BYU apologist phrase, if you don’t like [the way the HCO is being mocked], you can just go somewhere else! Anyway, I think the point of the post is two-fold (or two-lobed, if you will): 1) that were it not for the moderating influences of Burgess, men may well have been prohibited from sporting sideburns on campus; and 2) that working for NuSkin is awesome! |
It all comes down to who your professors are. Generally, the younger the engineering/science professor OR the older the humanities professor, the less concerned they were with unshaven students. Female professors tended to not really care as much (as one humanities professor I had said, who is still there, “I don’t like shaving my legs in the winter.”). The dangerous types were the older engineering/science professors or newbie humanities people. Non-faculty administrators were the worst. |
I don’t get it. I hope someone will fill me in. I disliked the HCO as much as anyone else during my time at BYU, but I must not be catching some of the references in this post…. |
I’m watching you, Burgess… |
Tagore, this post is neither two-lobed nor two-fold. It’s two-balled. |
In your next installment, please tell us what happens when you take the choke chain off Len. |
Bravo! I made it as far as “had [lunch] brought into our office by one of the female employees” before I realized it was a put-on. |
Dear Queuno, Please help me to understand why you would be so moved as to damage personal property in this manner. In fact, let me just reach here for my planner … Dear Tagore, Not just sideburns, but also socks: many careers have been made on less than this! |
“I made it as far as “had [lunch] brought into our office by one of the female employees†before I realized it was a put-on.” That made me a little suspicious, but then I thought, “Well, it is BYU after all….” And I was surprised that DKL said, “Actually, it’s impossible to mock the HCO more than it deserves,” because it’s the first thing I’ve ever read by him that I agreed with. I’m a little disappointed, though, because it disproved my theory that he’s Always Wrong About Everything. (I guess Charles Krauthammer really is unique.) |
wow – this is beautiful… Too bad you were not around in the early 1990′s – it sounds like things had relaxed a lot through the decade. |
For all those who keep saying they get it, can you please help me out??? :) |
As one of the members of the original Standards Committee (established in 1970 with 4 faculty, 3 students), I thoroughly enjoyed this rif. |
“Let the men go without sideburns” sounds like a scripture, or alternate translation of scripture, or something from the classics. Not having a classical education, can someone please give me the reference? |
Bookslinger, And it’s also in Exodus, I guess. |
adam, thanks. But it sounds more like something in Leviticus. However, I think Leviticus says men _should_ have beards and sideburns, and that’s why Hassidic Jews have the “ear-lock” thing in addition to beards. It may have been a play on “Let the men go _with_ sideburns” or whatever the King James translators used for “sideburns”. |
Bravo! As one who had an unpleasant interaction with the HCO back in the early 90s, I believe they cannot be mocked enough. |
I’m just guessing, but I think that “Let the men go without…” is a construction common to the Navy, where the term “men” refers to the non-officers. Such that the commander on a ship (usually a ship’s 2nd-in-command after the captain) might say to the captain after particularly poor performance by the sailors, “Let the men go without grog.” The implications of this interpretation are myriad. First and foremost, it underscores the fact that Len is a subordinate of Burgess (the de facto leader). Plus, it captures the holier-than-thou attitude of HCO counselors — they fancy themselves the officers of the BYU ship. It also implies that Len believes that BYU students seek after sideburns as something desirable, the withholding of which places students at a disadvantage. It subtly emphasizes the fact that that HCO exists primarily to enforce morality through punishment, giving expression to the otherwise tacit assumption that the HCO deems BYU students to be constantly worthy of punishment. It even captures the prevailing male/priesthood centric view that dominates BYU and its culture, just like the line about having lunch served by female employees. |
DKL (23): Alternatively, “Let the men go without” could derive from the phrase often attributed to Marie Antoinette (though perhaps more accurately attributed to Marie-Thérèse, wife of Louis XIV), “Let them eat cake” (“qu’ils mangent de la brioche” in French). As you know, this was allegedly Antoinette’s response when informed that the French masses were without bread and starving. The Antoinette interpretation would take a subtle, yet meaningful departure from the Navy-centered construction you advocate above, with some distinct Marxist tones. The BYU masses serve as the analog to the 18th century French proletariat. Len’s comment is likely a response to the proletarian complaints regarding facial hair prohibition at BYU. One can sympathize, without agreeing, with Len’s approach. The HCO had displayed magnanimity by allowing mustaches, and yet students continued complaining about beard restrictions. Len, in typical bourgeois fashion, lashes out, saying, in essence, “If they’re not happy with mustaches, then let them go without sideburns.” Admittedly, Burgess’s role is somewhat less clear in this model. I would argue this suggests the model is incomplete rather than inaccurate, and encourage others to explore what looks to be very fertile ground. |
Tagore, I like your model based on the French Revolution. I propose that, using that model, Burgess is Robespierre, The Incorruptible. His twisted vision of enlightenment values combined with his personal sense of righteousness led him to define his own authority in terms of the “good” that he inflicted on the masses, ultimately causing a backlash that led to his downfall. Thus, Burgess equates the HCO with The Reign of Terror. And — here’s the irony — it ultimately led to Burgess’s own downfall as an unspoken, but tragic, end to our tale to counterbalance the success of our up-and-coming NuSkin executive, at once reinforcing and undermining the central thesis of the story. Forcing us, Leonard Berstein-like, to face head-on the disconnect between the unachievable ideal and the inadequate reality. Sideburns indeed. Brilliant! |
Wow. I haven’t read such a self-righteous post in quite a while. I believe such individuals, similar to the Spanish inquisitors of old, were so drunk with power that their completely inappropriate actions, writings, and sermons seemed somehow justified. Luckily, BYU administrators realized the irreprable damage the misguided HCC caused that it dissolved the organization in 1999. In its place, the Student Honor Association (SHA) was formed to take a more Christlike approach. I had the opportunity to work as a VP for SHA right after HCC was disbanded. Most of our efforts were spent working to repair what the corrupt HCC had done. In the end, after working closely with BYUSA and Honor Code executives, in addition to the Dean of Students, I am not aware of any official who considers the HCC era successful. |
Lighten up, Nigel. It’s a lampoon! |
Please help me to understand why you would be so moved as to damage personal property in this manner. In fact, let me just reach here for my planner … I didn’t think it right that they were attempting to backfill me for a job I had quit when they hadn’t yet paid me for my last month’s worth. Plus, the job posting was in a public message board. It wasn’t personal property. And it was posted in an illegal location, without the appropriate administration. My inquisitor agreed that since it was an illegal posting, there was no damage made to the company. But since they had complained, HCO felt they had to follow up. I made the point that in my time on the HCO, complaints from non-BYU entities were seldom taken so seriously. |
Burgess! Not everybody here went to BYU, I don’t remember you at all from your work in the standards office. I wish you’d provide history for your posts. I looked all over for the anthology of your poems. Where can I find them? Or is this info available only to a select few? |
Dear annegb, I’m not sure if you’re joking or not, but I’ll play it safe and assume you’re not: nothing I say about my life is ever actually true!! If I do say something sincere in the future, I’ll signpost it as such. I’m touched though, you would (apparently) search for my “poetry.” … I’ll have to write something just for you. |
It was nice to go to the U, where we got on with the business of education, not measuring sideburns… |
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