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My ward does have a teacher prep course and it has helped the quality of the teaching – it is a six week long course. I think you are right on though – the quality of teaching – particularly in EQ/HPQ is horrible overall. |
Devyn: I’m interested in hearing more. As I said, our stake does Teacher Development once a quarter, and even then, they break it up by teaching assignments: one meeting is for Primary, one for Sunday School, one for RS/PH, and (I suspect) one for YW/YM. It’s just for current teachers, and a given teacher would have a meeting once a year. We have nothing on a ward level. Does this appear to be an official Church course, or is it something that your ward has implemented? ..bruce.. |
Yes yes yes yes yes — everything bfwebster says. Amen and amen. Maybe some teachers are born, but most of us have to be made, and when formal lessons are such a significant part of our church activity we need to make more teachers. Of all the programs and activities that went by the bye in the interest of streamlining, losing formal instruction in how to teach has had the most serious consequences. |
Our ward has implemented it using the teacher development course materials – our stake was in a push better teaching mode for a couple of years and this has been useful. |
I hated teacher development, it was just one more meeting I attended out of guilt, but got very little from. |
Ardis, you owe me $10. |
I wish we could have this, but it goes against the grain of our times, which seems to be to do the best you can and don’t worry if you can’t do it well, because after all we’re just volunteers in a lay church and have more important stuff to do elsewhere. Sometimes I really dislike the notions that seem to be embedded in the phrase “lay clergy.” I prefer “nation of priests.” |
Teaching is bad because mediocrity is celebrated amongst the membership of the church. Mediocrity is viewed as the anti-thesis of intellectualism and sophistication, both of which are looked down upon by much of the membership. Thus, mediocrity is valued. If you are an intellectual, you doubt the power of pure faith. You are a skeptic, lurking in the back row of GD class waiting to cast doubt on whether or not Samson really did kill 1000′s of people with that jawbone and if doing so is really a course of action that we’d want to engage in. If you are sophisticated, you are only concerned with massing wealth and the praise of others. You aren’t interested in doing good in the world. So, be mediocre. Laugh off your nervous grammatical slips, your flawed singing voice, your soggy casserole. This little mishaps will just endear you to everyone else so much more. |
Sam, the biggest driver of mediocrity in church service has nothing to do with anti-intellectual issues. It’s driven by the ingrained reflex to bellyache about every bit of time and effort asked of us, as if there were more than a small fraction of the Saints who spend more than a small fraction of their time on church matters. In response, church leaders throw out or dumb down everything they have a chance to. |
We have teacher development classes in my ward on occasion, and there was that sattelite broadcast last year(?) from church headquarters that discussed it. I think it was taught by Elder Holland. Anyone else attend that? Unfortunately, it seems to me that most of the teachers who really need it are unlikely to attend the teacher development classes. They should be mandatory and they should be taken seriously, but more importantly, they must be taught by someone who knows what they are talking about, and those people are in short supply. |
Sam is sophisticated. Sam is not mediocre. |
MCQ: I think I attended the broadcast you refer. I don’t remember it really getting at the issues bfwebster raises. |
I’d like to dissent from just about everything that has been said so far. The church has done away with its formal teacher development classes, not because people bellyached about them but because they were useless. I do not think there was a golden age sometime in the past where we had better teaching than we do now. For the past 50 years, people have kvetched about crummy priesthood lessons whether we have teacher development or not, so if we can’t tell a difference in the outcome, what’s the point? I’ve sat through many teacher development classes (obviously not enough, a smart alec might say), and they all suffer from an over-emphasis on technique. The first step towards being a decent teacher is to realize that there are no shortcuts. You have to know the material well, be excited about it, and have love, or at least charitable concern, for the class members. If you don’t have those, no amount of tricks, visual aids, or classroom management techniques will save you, and you will fail as a teacher. And if you have them, you will succeed, even if your methods drive the professional pedagogists crazy. Some of the best teachers I have had, in and out of the church, broke all the rules. They were completely indifferent to technique. |
BrianJ, are we talking about the same thing? If you read the material you link to, it was absolutely a teacher development program. It discussed teacher development in detail and gave a lot of specific examples about how to teach more efeectively. My point in referring to it was that I was asked to go and I attended it and found it to be fairly informative and effective in teaching skills that could be applied by teachers in their callings. How is that not what we’re talking about? |
#7: I prefer “nation of priests.†In my Gospel Essentials lesson on priesthood and church organization, I start with that scripture (Exodus 19:6, which actually says “And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and and holy nation.”). In many of the other comments, it’s unclear whether people are referring to the 12-week course I went through back in 1971 or some of the subsequent versions (eight weeks, six weeks, once a quarter, etc.). I disagree strongly with Mark Brown (#13) that the 1970s course (if that’s what he’s talking about) was useless; it made a tremendous difference in my skills as a teacher. Do I do everything now that I learned back then? No, but it showed me the path to get to where I am today as a teacher. And for people who don’t know the first thing about teaching, it really is a godsend (so to speak). ..bruce.. |
Sam (no. 8): Your definition of “intellectual,” “sophisticated,” and “mediocrity” really says it all. I laughed, I cried, I wanted to run screaming from the room. Thank you. |
As it currently stands, your Sunday School President is in charge of teacher development for your ward. Those who have a TD class during the SS block, have that SS Pres to thank. For the most part, though, this duty (given them about 2 years ago) has not been embraced. I think TEACHING: NO GREATER CALLING is a pretty good resource, and it would be helpful if people just read it. It would be great is people could sit through the class. If I were the SS president, I might explore offering a SS version and an evening one for the people who want it but teach through the SS block. The thing is, most people don’t view their teaching problems as teaching problems. They think the kids have bad behavior or the adults are uninterested (and don’t read the lesson) or that the manuals are too dull. I suspect that better teaching would eliminate most of those issues. |
Maybe ours is in the minority, but we live in a ward that really “gets” teacher development. We have a teacher development instructor, who works in the Sunday School organization. The course is a twelve-week course taught from Teaching: No Greater Call. There are lessons on loving those you teach, lessons on preparing material, lessons on organizing your lesson, lessons on analyzing the material you’re given to pick out those principles that reflect the purpose you’ve selected for your lesson, and lessons on converting your lesson outline into an organized lesson plan with transitions and supporting material. The course also deals (briefly) with classroom management, visual aids, and other stuff. When I was Elders Quorum President, I required my instructors to attend the course. The course is in it’s eleventh week in our ward right now, and last week there were about 18 people in the class (averaged about 15 a week since the beginning). I guess we’re pretty lucky, because our teacher development course is awesome. |
Amen ESO, but I think it’s called “Teaching: No greater Call” |
Most sacrament meeting talks are mediocre readings of recent conference talks. Most SS lessons are either bad lectures or filled with Primary-level questions that are too simple to be worth answering. Most PH lessons either have nothing to do with what is in the book or are simply a chance to read the book aloud as a group with no insight or real thought. Complexity, examination of controversy or paradoxes, and hard questions are considered forbidden. Yet these can form the foundation of a spiritual and uplifting lessons. Members dread speaking and teaching. We have a long list in our ward of active members who refuse to even pray in sacrament meeting. Many who accept a call to speak simply want the experience to be over with. It is torture for them and for the audience. Frankly, I think OSC has some great points, and I agree with his contention that one reason that we lose young adults is poor quality teaching. The three hour block is often a big blob of mediocrity and many youth in over stimulated culture see it as a waste of time. Personally I favor a 90 minute schedule, but frankly if the members cared to make the 3 hour block compelling they could. The real problem is that most see nothing wrong with it. I make complaints in bishopric meeting about the quality of instruction and such and people look at me like I’m from Mars. Our culture of lay clergy has somehow become the source of a pride in unprofessionalism that is hurting our church but we can’t see it. Now I’m ranting and I’ll stop. |
MCQ: My impression was that bfwebster is opining for a teacher development program, especially one that incorporates professional teaching techniques. I remember the broadcast as being a sort of “Teacher Development: Day One,” but I don’t remember any detailed discussion of a teacher development program, or how a SS president would go about implementing such a program. And while I found aspects of the broadcast helpful to many teachers in the Church, I didn’t notice anything that came across as professional technique. I admit that I may have missed bfwebster’s point. |
And you know, Ardis doesn’t owe me $10 for a bet or anything like that, she owes me ten actual dollars. I bought her a phone card and sent it to her so I could do that interview and she never called me back. Given, I could have totally offended her somewhere, but you know, $10 is $10 and Ardis, you owe me $10. I’m sort of mental about people owing me money. And I can’t believe you’re the type of person to take something like that and not re-pay it. |
Though I firmly believe that most anyone can get better at most anything with the right guidance, preparation, and practice, that doesn’t mean that everyone can be “good at it” in the generally accepted sense. So, I’m 100% behind any and all efforts to improve the level of teaching at church. However, I’m not terribly optimistic about the end result. It’s like ward choir, in a way. Due to the nature of the pool of people (potential teachers) you have to draw from, it can’t ever really be fixed. This doesn’t make church members useless idiots, it just means that everybody has different talents and not everyone was cut out to be a good teacher. There are bright spots and exceptions out there; but, unfortunately, those that are good teachers can’t always have the teaching callings. So, yes, let’s help teachers improve since any improvement would be a godsend, but in the end my practical side has a hard time expecting too much. |
I was a great EQ instructor (two occasions, totaling over 3 years). I’m not bragging. I had great lessons prepared, we had great interaction and participation and feedback, and there were particular Sundays where the Spirit was definitely present. What was my secret? Preparation. Seriously, I never got the idea that you could whip up a meeting 2 hours before priesthood. I would start preparing my lessons a couple of weeks in advance. I’d draft things I wanted to say, pull in quotes from the manual and the scriptures cited, and then it germinate. Sometimes, I’d scrap and re-write the entire thing. But good lesson preparation takes TIME and EFFORT and PREPARATION. And you have to figure out what questions to ask. And you have to figure out what you’re going to do if the conversation takes a natural change in a slightly different direction. What do you cut if you don’t have enough time? (When there’s some quorum or class business you didn’t anticipate.) Maybe I’m not very smart, but I couldn’t prepare a minimally acceptable EQ lesson on anything less than 10 hours of review and prep time over at least a week. Ideally, 2 weeks to prepare. |
I have somehow become the opposite of queuno. Not by choice. I am the guy they call on Sunday morning and ask if I would please teach because somebody bailed or didn’t plan or whatnot. So I read the lesson three times, find the quotes I think are interesting. I try hard to find quotes in the same lesson or recent quotes that I remember still that seem to contradict each other. I write questions in the margins of my book. I try to ask questions that don’t have simple, factual answers. Questions that promote discussion or at least thought. Then I try to think on my feet during the lesson and come up with questions based on comments. If nobody answers or comments I’m dead in the water but it usually goes pretty well. |
arJ – For some reason, I have moved into the “can you just teach on 5 minutes notice?” guy as well. And its because they think that I’m a naturally gifted teacher. In fact, I have to plan spontaneity. I’ll gladly take the opportunity to teach on 5 minutes notice. But it’s really, really hard. For some reason, I can give a talk on 5 minutes’ notice. But a lesson involves give-and-take, and I don’t do well without obsessively preparing that… |
queuno, If I’m asked to give a talk on 5 minute’s notice I use an old talk that I’ve given before. I feel compelled to spend several evenings on my talks, and giving an original talk on short notice would be a challenge for me. EQ, on the other had, I’d be comfortable with teaching (from the book anyhow) if asked at the start of priesthood opening exercises. Would it be great? No way. Would I rather do that than listen to many of the lessons that I sit through? Yup. |
Bruce, the current Teacher Development course uses this manual, from http://www.ldscatalog.com: cat #: 36123000 I forget how many weeks it was, but this was taught in a ward I was in about 4 years ago, during the SS time slot. |
Bookslinger: Thanks for the reference. I suspect that I have that manual in my Church materials downstairs. ..bruce.. |
Another commenter mentioned this, but I thought the 2007 Worldwide leadership training conference on teaching was excellent. Here is a link: |