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		<title>By: Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters &#124; Nacle Notebook 2009: Funny comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters &#124; Nacle Notebook 2009: Funny comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DKL, commenting on ESO&#8217;s post &#8220;Keeping their eyes closed&#8221; at Mormon Mentality:  Of course, the biggest advantage of nudity is that it cuts down on laundry. So with me, I guess I could say that my aversion to laundry is far outweighed by my aversion to everybody looking at my goodies. Some people enjoy the best of both worlds, and they neither go naked nor do their laundry. Since I’m not one of them, there are probably a few other aversions at work. But you get the idea. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DKL, commenting on ESO&#8217;s post &#8220;Keeping their eyes closed&#8221; at Mormon Mentality:  Of course, the biggest advantage of nudity is that it cuts down on laundry. So with me, I guess I could say that my aversion to laundry is far outweighed by my aversion to everybody looking at my goodies. Some people enjoy the best of both worlds, and they neither go naked nor do their laundry. Since I’m not one of them, there are probably a few other aversions at work. But you get the idea. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonmentality.org/2009/03/25/keeping-their-eyes-closed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111445</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Well, I looked it up (I know it&#039;s been explained before). It is a very tricky phrase. Because it sounds like name calling but it also could be missing the point or changing the subject, sort of. I&#039;m sure I do that. In a way ad hominem strikes me as a great way to argue unless it&#039;s with the lawyers here. 

I looked up non sequiter and I do that, too, I&#039;m sure. Also dichotomy and oxymoron. Dichotomy reminds me of Sylvester Stallone because he uses it a lot and it was surprising the first time I heard it. I&#039;ve never been able to use it in a sentence though. I use oxymoron a lot. THAT word I totally get. 

I read back and I don&#039;t see ad hominem. I thought we were all having a good civil disagreement until I got on your bad side. 

Being accused of ad hominem puts me in the same with my best friend, DKL, so I feel okay about that. I would say I&#039;m too dumb to use ad hominem but maybe not. 

...Am I bugging you, CG? :)

I&#039;m blogging on my way home from Wyoming and I must say my Blackberry is totally paying fo itself because I haven&#039;t screamed once over Bill&#039;s driving. 

Back to the subject, reading over, I like nasomomdele&#039;s #4 and also your #13, ESO, I wonder if (women, especially) we always see the flaws in our bodies no matter what. 

I guess if I were to use an ad hominem I would call myself a moron because I didn&#039;t read all the posts carefully before posting.  Dang, I do that all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Well, I looked it up (I know it&#8217;s been explained before). It is a very tricky phrase. Because it sounds like name calling but it also could be missing the point or changing the subject, sort of. I&#8217;m sure I do that. In a way ad hominem strikes me as a great way to argue unless it&#8217;s with the lawyers here. </p>
<p>I looked up non sequiter and I do that, too, I&#8217;m sure. Also dichotomy and oxymoron. Dichotomy reminds me of Sylvester Stallone because he uses it a lot and it was surprising the first time I heard it. I&#8217;ve never been able to use it in a sentence though. I use oxymoron a lot. THAT word I totally get. </p>
<p>I read back and I don&#8217;t see ad hominem. I thought we were all having a good civil disagreement until I got on your bad side. </p>
<p>Being accused of ad hominem puts me in the same with my best friend, DKL, so I feel okay about that. I would say I&#8217;m too dumb to use ad hominem but maybe not. </p>
<p>&#8230;Am I bugging you, CG? :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m blogging on my way home from Wyoming and I must say my Blackberry is totally paying fo itself because I haven&#8217;t screamed once over Bill&#8217;s driving. </p>
<p>Back to the subject, reading over, I like nasomomdele&#8217;s #4 and also your #13, ESO, I wonder if (women, especially) we always see the flaws in our bodies no matter what. </p>
<p>I guess if I were to use an ad hominem I would call myself a moron because I didn&#8217;t read all the posts carefully before posting.  Dang, I do that all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a grip, cg, I don&#039;t even know what an ad hominem is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a grip, cg, I don&#8217;t even know what an ad hominem is.</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi annegb,

Let me start by thanking you for responding to the question I asked queuno. 

Looking back, I see now that what I said to you in post #31 was too vague to serve any purpose:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Get a grip, CG.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you, you just confirmed the impression that I had tentatively formed.  
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I ought to have added there that I&#039;m really not interested in further discussion with you, since you&#039;ve made it clear that you&#039;re just going to use &lt;i&gt;ad hominems&lt;/i&gt; to avoid engaging what I have to say (and presumably not just me but anyone who dares to call you on your assertion that &quot;adults should avoid shared nudity with their kids&quot;). 

Sorry for the confusion,
- CG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi annegb,</p>
<p>Let me start by thanking you for responding to the question I asked queuno. </p>
<p>Looking back, I see now that what I said to you in post #31 was too vague to serve any purpose:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><blockquote cite=""><i>Get a grip, CG.</i> </p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you, you just confirmed the impression that I had tentatively formed.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I ought to have added there that I&#8217;m really not interested in further discussion with you, since you&#8217;ve made it clear that you&#8217;re just going to use <i>ad hominems</i> to avoid engaging what I have to say (and presumably not just me but anyone who dares to call you on your assertion that &#8220;adults should avoid shared nudity with their kids&#8221;). </p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion,<br />
- CG.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually never heard the term before--well in regards to naked children. I was thinking of it as people who don&#039;t close the door when they use the bathroom. 

Actually I&#039;ve only heard of nudists as in colony. 

I didn&#039;t know it was a movement or anything. 

Now that I think about it, I think there&#039;s a huge difference between celebrating and loving their bodies and everybody in the family running around naked in front of each other.  

I actually never really thought about this subject much except to think my neighbor was out to lunch not letting her girls wear sleeveless dresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually never heard the term before&#8211;well in regards to naked children. I was thinking of it as people who don&#8217;t close the door when they use the bathroom. </p>
<p>Actually I&#8217;ve only heard of nudists as in colony. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know it was a movement or anything. </p>
<p>Now that I think about it, I think there&#8217;s a huge difference between celebrating and loving their bodies and everybody in the family running around naked in front of each other.  </p>
<p>I actually never really thought about this subject much except to think my neighbor was out to lunch not letting her girls wear sleeveless dresses.</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonmentality.org/2009/03/25/keeping-their-eyes-closed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111395</link>
		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, the formatting didn&#039;t come out the way I expected.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;queuno&quot;&gt;Itâ€™s also funny when this topic comes up at Church â€¦ and you realize who the nudists are in your ward.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In your book, are open-door families â€œnudistsâ€?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, the formatting didn&#8217;t come out the way I expected.</p>
<blockquote cite="queuno"><p>Itâ€™s also funny when this topic comes up at Church â€¦ and you realize who the nudists are in your ward.</p></blockquote>
<p>In your book, are open-door families â€œnudistsâ€?</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itâ€™s also funny when this topic comes up at Church â€¦ and you realize who the nudists are in your ward.

In your book, are open-door families &quot;nudists&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itâ€™s also funny when this topic comes up at Church â€¦ and you realize who the nudists are in your ward.</p>
<p>In your book, are open-door families &#8220;nudists&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: JA Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonmentality.org/2009/03/25/keeping-their-eyes-closed.htm/comment-page-1#comment-111275</link>
		<dc:creator>JA Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have Naked Hour for 4 and under right before bath time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have Naked Hour for 4 and under right before bath time.</p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also funny when this topic comes up at Church ... and you realize who the nudists are in your ward.

Just make sure you call ahead before home teaching...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also funny when this topic comes up at Church &#8230; and you realize who the nudists are in your ward.</p>
<p>Just make sure you call ahead before home teaching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree that moderation is best on these types of issues.  I have 5 boys 9 and under.  They are nude when changing clothes and bathing.  The younger ones like to run around nude after bath time.  Its kind of funny.

I think its wrong to be esp prudish and wrong to go to far the other way.

Its always fun to see the imput of LDS nudists who usually show up when this topic is discussed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree that moderation is best on these types of issues.  I have 5 boys 9 and under.  They are nude when changing clothes and bathing.  The younger ones like to run around nude after bath time.  Its kind of funny.</p>
<p>I think its wrong to be esp prudish and wrong to go to far the other way.</p>
<p>Its always fun to see the imput of LDS nudists who usually show up when this topic is discussed.</p>
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