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Nice post. I don’t follow football too closely, but close enough that I was worried about Vick getting picked up so quickly—worried that Eagles management didn’t care so much about crime as they do about ticket sales. I had no idea that Dungy was behind this and, like you, his name meant something as soon as I read it. There’s something interesting about that alone: that Dungy’s name carries an air of respect that makes forgiveness easier. That’s quite a compliment to him. |
I read this and I thought, “I just love bloggers…for so many reasons.” |
The fact that Andy Reid’s oldest sons are convicted drug users/dealers and have served time is poignant. Reid sounded sincere when he said that anyone who is following the process deserves a second chance. |
[Oh, Andy Reid, Vick's new coach, is a BYU graduate and Mormon. So there's the relevance, in case Harold asks.] |
I’ve heard that Michael Vick is getting the discussions. A friend of a friend told me that someone gave Michael Vick a Book of Mormon at a dog fight. |
BrianJ (1), Contrast Tony Dungy’s influence with that of Drew Rosenhaus,Terrel Owens’ agent during the year TO was in Philadelphia. TO complained about his contract, saying he needed a bigger contract to “feed his family,” and Rosenhaus, one of the biggest weasels in sports, tried to frame it as a moral issue while having zero moral authority. We saw how that worked out. DKL (5), Yeah, I’m sure that was discussed somewhere at Sunstone. |
I can just see a room full of priesthood holders wiping their eyes at the thought of a great coach rehabilitating Michael Vick. Such a spiritual moment. LOL |
Annegb #7, my thoughts exactly. This may well have been the perfect lesson. I very much like BrianJ’s point that it was Dungy’s name that made people reconsider Vick. The story reminds me of one of my favorite scriptures,D&C 45:4-5 My own reliability with God was shot before I was even accountable and continues to this day. Even though I’m not totally evil, I’m not of myself worthy to ask to live with God. But that’s the miracle of the Atonement. It will be for Christ’s sake that I return to my Father. And another thing, But using the Vick story as an example, Dungy would not have put his name on the line if Vick told him he was going to go buy some dogs to fight, etc. Vick’s repentance did not obligate Dungy to stick his neck out for Vick. But Dungy did stick his neck out for Vick because Vick repented. Similarly, although we will never deserve forgiveness, even when we repent, Christ promises forgiveness based on repentance. In that sense, our works can never save us, but our works (repentance) do save us. (And finally as a side-note and probably a thread-jack, I think the shooter’s view of grace may have been what Satan proposed in the pre-mortal existence: salvation to all regardless of repentance) |
I don’t know. Nobody knows what was in that man’s heart except the Lord. I bekive he did see Jesus, I believe we all do at the moment of our passing—and it is a passing. But I doubt he recognized Him. He will eventually. As to Vick, only God knows. |
Dan, If you taught my EQ’s lessons, I might be willing to go. |
Vick came to a EQ meeting in Philly? Reason why Vick is gettting a second chance is that the QB position is so hard to fill with a quality starter and McNabb is getting older. |
I love football object lessons. I have a few good ones, and some good baseball lessons, more than one of which revolves around Kirk Gibson’s homer in Game 1 of the ’86 World Series. My basketball lessons are all about Derek Fisher. This lesson also reminds me of the poignant scene in Les Miserables where the priest “buys” Jean Valjean’s soul by saving him from certain lifelong incarceration and giving him silver to begin again. Regardless of the outcome, it is amazing to see two men (Reid and Dungy) willing to stake their names on the life of another. Forgiveness and mercy are divine, to be sure. |
DKL:
I told you that. I’m pretty sure that Tagore gave him that Book of Mormon. He used to take in a dogfight or two after a hard day of trampling children on his horse. |
nasamomdele – I don’t think Reid and Dungy are risking their names at all. If this goes badly, everyone will say, “oh well, they tried” and just blame Vick. |