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Its true in Orem. |
Very true. You’ll need tickets from your bishop or a current recommend to watch and participate from your stake center. |
yes, it’s true. also happened for the draper temple dedication a few months back. every baptized, temple worthy member over the age of 8 has an interview with a bishopric member and gets a recommend to attend, and each stake center becomes a temple extension for the event. it’s at 9 and 3, you can choose which one you attend (and in our case, my husband and i will split up with a child at each time so that someone’s home with the little kids). and other meetings are all cancelled. as to why, we need someone more official to answer that. |
True in Salt Lake. It was true a coupla months ago for the Draper temple dedication, too. Frankly, I’d rather go to regular church meetings than have to sit on a folding chair in a cultural hall and watch any meeting on a teeny tiny TV screen across the room. Especially since you have to be in your seat an hour early, because they lock the doors. |
It’s true in SLC. |
This is for the dedication of the Oquirrh Mountain Temple. Our stake did the same for the Draper Temple Dedication a few months ago, though I know that my brother’s stake held Sacrament meeting but dropped the rest of the block and then had the dedication broadcast. My understanding is that the attempt to do both was a complete failure. |
This just strikes me as very odd. I have never been a part of any temple dedication, but are they typically held on Sunday? I thought not. |
It’s true in Provo. I’m in Wymount (student married housing next door to the Provo temple) and our chapel will be considered an “extension of the [Oquirrh Mountain] temple.” There are two dedication sessions (morning and afternoon) so all normal church meetings are canceled for the day. We’re going because it seldom happens in Utah to have a temple dedication (okay, okay, so this year there’s two) and my wife has never been to one. |
Incidentally, when they did the Draper temple dedication, the timing was such that we had Sacrament meeting only, because the dedication happened during the time of the other two hours. |
Why not? |
It’s true in southern Utah. I will be sleeping all day and thinking righteous thoughts. What a hoopla. I think it takes away the specialness of the dedication. I think the Draper dedication was on a Saturday though. |
often a temple dedication is a weekend event with several sessions (draper temple had 12, i believe). this same sort of thing was done churchwide for the temple dedications of nauvoo, palmyra, and far west, although if i remember correctly, those were not on sunday and church meetings weren’t affected. |
Yay! It’s true for us, here in Spanish Fork. It’s because the Orquirrh Temple is being dedicated, and they are broadcasting two sessions (9am and 3pm) of the dedication. From what I was told, it is for the benefit of parents of small children, so we can switch off and still be able to attend a session. And, for what it is worth, when the Las Vegas Temple was dedicated back in 1989, there was a session on Sunday. |
It’s true in Salt Lake City too. |
It’s not a wild rumor. And it isn’t “very odd.” 2 dedication sessions will be held and broadcast to meetinghouses in Utah. Normal church meetings will not be held. Tickets must be obtained through Bishoprics and they’re for worthy members age 8 and above. |
True in downtown SLC. |
This is not that unusual. Often, temple dedications are on Sundays. Depending on the temple, and the time of the dedication, there may or may not be church on that Sunday. Unlike (apparently) you, there are often many more people who want to participate in a temple dedication than the temple itself can hold at once. So there are usually several sessions of the dedication, and when there is sufficient interest, the dedication is broadcast over the Church’s satellite system. For example, when the Nauvoo temple was dedicated, at least one of the sessions was on a Sunday, and the dedication was broadcast over the Church’s satellite system. Unfortunately for us, our stake’s time to participate was on Sunday afternoon, after all the normal meeetings were over, so those of us who went to the dedication broadcast had to go to both. We were living in Las Vegas for its dedication. It was dedicated on Saturday and Sunday. Our stake was part of the Sunday morning dedication, so you either went to the dedication or had no church that day. As for why someone would want to be a part of a temple dedication, I guess that depends on your feelings about the temple. For those of us to whom the temple is important, participation in any temple dedication is a wonderful opportunity to be a part of giving the building to the Lord and His work. I have participated, either in person or by broadcast, in four dedications. There are few things more impressive than being in a room–temple, chapel, or (in the case of the dedication of the Provo temple), the Marriott Center–and being part of the Hosanna Shout. |
Oh my heck! Hey how come Utah gets all the fun stuff. |
Seems like the church could include more than just Utah if it wanted to. Not sure why it’s just limited to the Zion state. Righteousness I guess. |
True in my part of Utah |
Yes, it’s true. My stake president confirmed block meetings are canceled in the entire state so everyone can focus on the Oquirrh Mountain temple dedication. I believe there are two sessions, morning and afternoon, of the dedication. All members 8 and up need a brief interview with a bishopric member to receive a ticket. |
Two interesting aspects: 1) Apparently these dedications of temples in Utah are events for all the stakes of Utah and none outside Utah. (No one outside Utah has chimed in yet to say their stake will participate.) A temple dedication in Draper matters for the saints in Cedar City, but not for those across the border in Idaho. 2) Dedicating all these temples would take a lot of First Presidency time the old way, but as with all things temple this days, ease and comfort wins, because really why should it be worth putting ourselves out for anything? We declare all church buildings extensions of the temple for the day, and it all gets done quickly, and none need make the onerous journey of perhaps dozens of miles to sit in some corner of the temple. I expect before I die that the temple will be a laptop in my bishop’s office. When I complain that the experience feels diminished, everyone will let me know how primitive, wasteful, pointless, and super-inconvenient my old nostalgias were. |
Nope, it’s not true. All these people are pulling your chain. We are still having meetings in my home this Sunday. Bring your temple clothes. |
It’s true for the whole state (or at least the Wasatch Front). As for why — why not? Very few people can make it to a temple dedication (especially this one, as the Oquirrh Mountain Temple is fairly small); this way, they can. |
annegb, Draper was Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, though the broadcast was 9 am and 3 pm on Sunday. CS Eric, My recollection is that the Nauvoo dedication was broadcast on a weekday evening. |
All right, I feel like an idiot because when I first accessed the page, for some reason only one comment showed up. So I commented, and suddenly there are 20+. McQ:
Well, the temple’s in Utah, for the use of the Saints in Utah; maybe they thought that the dedication should be available to those for whom the temple is for. I wouldn’t be surprised if future non-Utah dedications were broadcast to stake centers in that temple’s region. John:
Aside from the discomfort I feel whenever someone decides that snark is the correct tone for discussing a temple of the Lord, exactly how many people do you think could fit in this, one of the smaller temples? Would you rather that they had a lottery to fit the hundred-or-so seats? (If inconvenience is such an integral part of the temple experience, then maybe you should limit yourself to only attending temples which lie more than six hours away from you. I hear the Halifax, Nova Scotia temple is very nice.) Instead of your intimations of couch-potato Mormons, I choose to see it as an invitation. By golly, they DO want to extend the blessings of the temple to everybody! Imagine that! |
Not only that, but to get a ticket, you have to be a member and over the age of 8. Just like any of the other temple dedication broadcasts. I think it’s strange. |
Great, I had the same thing happen to me with the one comment showing up. Now I feel stupid because I just repeated what everyone else said. The thing I find strange is the temple dedication overriding the church meetings for ALL of Utah. We went to the Draper dedication–it was held in the late afternoon/early evening–and it didn’t conflict with any meetings, so none were cancelled. I would have still gone to church on Sunday and then I would have gone to the dedication if they held it in the evening. But then, I actually like church. |
Oquirrh Mountain is not a smaller temple. LDSChurchTemples.com lists its size as 60,000 square feet. That would make it half the size of the Provo temple (128,325 sq. ft.), a third the size of the Los Angeles temple (190,614 sq. ft.), or 75% the size of the Las Vegas temple (80,350 sq. ft.). It is twice as large as the Denver temple (29,117 sq. ft.) and five times the size of the Detroit temple (10,700 sq. ft.). |
I’ve been in the Oquirrh Mountain temple, and in the chapel, there are 1/4 as many seats as in the Jordan River temple. |
I had assumed this was church-wide (in the states, anyway). Definitely true, and a recommend is not enough. Your bishop or one of his counselors will ask you if you hold a recommend worthily. My bishop added things like, “Do you love your bishop? Do you feel you are really in love with him? How might you be a better wife?” (Not really. He started to ask some extra questions and then decided he was going too far.) I do love the dedicatory “Spirit of God” (Hosanna Anthem), and the Hosanna Shout. Gotta get my handkerchief. |
Interesting. Now, I could see the point of doing this for the temple’s district, but I agree with the poster that asked why Cedar City and not southern Idaho? I attended the Nauvoo broadcast in my church building in Arizona, and I was surprisingly unimpressed. The hosanna shout felt silly, and I don’t think we even “shouted”. For what it’s worth, that was also one of the periods in my life that my testimony was the strongest. If I was still in Utah, I would be staying home (or camping!) this Sunday. If my stake in the southeast ever gets a temple within three hours, though, I will try my darnedest to attend the dedication. |
Now it looks like on top of this rumor there is a conspiracy to cover it up. 32 comments, but only 1 showing… hmmm. |
Ok, so my last comment seems to have unstopped the rest. Weird. Can I stay home if I don’t live in Utah? |
I was I was back in Utah already! I embroidered a handkerchief and everything so I’d have one in the future. |
True for my ward in Sandy. Wahoo!!! Maybe next week they’ll suspend the WoW…Come to think of it, they ought to suspend something every week just for fun sake. |
*wish I was |
I get folks wanting to be a part of the action, folks (although it doesn’t seem to me that viewing from a remote location would be that fun). But why not do the dedication on Saturday and let people who want to take the Sacrament get it like usual on Sunday? It would make a lot of sense to me to do this within the temple district. But once you have extended it to the whole state, why not the whole Church? I suppose I am as likely to use this temple as someone from Logan, am I not? I also think it seems like a lot of extra work for Bishopric in UT to clear everyone, but if they are not complaining, I won’t. |
So that’s why everyone at work is going camping this weekend. No church! it’s a holiday, I wonder if the boy scouts will put a flag up in my yard? |
Exactly, Susan LOL. I went to one temple dedication. I think if I went to a bunch of them, it wouldn’t mean as much. |
Yes, this is true–second time this year after the Draper temple dedication. It’s an interesting question, why all meetings would be cancelled (especially just in Utah), but since meetings are always ‘cancelled’ for General Conference twice a year, I guess there’s a precedent. The emphasis on temples at the last General Conference, in fact, seems to indicate that the Brethren are trying to emphasize temple worship more highly in the lives of the common member nowadays, and deliberately want to place temple dedications on the same level as GC. |
I just did the same thing…strange! Sorry for the redundancy… |
Am I the only one who’s not seeing any new comments show up anywhere on this blog? I keep seeing an increasing number of comments listed at the end of each post, I keep seeing new comments listed under “Latest Comments,” but when I click on the post or on the Latest Comment list, I don’t see any comments beyond those made up to a couple of days ago. For example, on this post, it says there’s 42 comments, but only the first is visible, followed immediately by the “Leave a Comment” fields. It’s been this way for about three days. It doesn’t matter what browser I use, or even if I check from work. Maybe all those missing comments are just from other people saying they can’t see any new comments. |
And now THERE’S all the comments… Weird. |
Perhaps you can put up a post to send a signal to the people still in the alternate universe. If you’re not seeing all the comments, then make a comment and they all magically appear. |
Left Field–it’s just our ploy to get more comments. Seriously–sorry guys–we are not sure what is going on, but working on it. |
We had stake conference this weekend in North Texas. No temple dedication, but we had a humorous/insulting talk by the mission president explaining everything that was wrong with today’s missionaries and how parents weren’t preparing them correctly, and how we could do better… (Seriously, he announced at the beginning that he hadn’t given a good talk until he’d found a way to offend everyone in the congregation. Then his first jab was directed at all of the mothers. Good times.) I think I enjoyed the MP talk/stake conference more than I would have a temple dedication for a temple I’m not likely to ever visit… |
queuno–at least it wasn’t a snoozefest. |
