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Be careful what you pray for… excellent observation! |
I always used to tell church members on my mission to pray for the missionaries in their Ward, otherwise those guys in South America will keep having all the success. |
Good one, arj. |
Funny. We hate it when our friends (and presidents) become successful. |
I’m fine with Obama winning the prize. Bill was griping about it—his friends are rabid Republicans and Limbaugh-lovers (not that there’s anything wrong with it) and I said, “Bill, he is the first black man to be elected president in the US. That’s monumental. His election will change the world and blesses the lives of black people around the world.” It’s not about deserving, it’s about recognizing an achievement that, hopefully, will change the world for the better. I think they should have given the prize to the voters of America who voted for him. I’m still skeptical, but hopefully, it will turn out well. I like Glenn Beck, too. I haven’t heard anything about 9/12, and I don’t care if I never do, but I don’t have a problem with Glenn Beck. Of course, I never watch his show, haven’t read his book, but the little glimpses I get aren’t as bad as people seem to believe. |
This is hilarious, arJ. (I had to look up what Project 912 was and ran into a Colbert clip that was pretty funny too.) |
Great non sequitur! |
We hate it when our friends (and presidents) become successful. And if we can destroy them |
Not to rain on your parade, but I would point out that GB was cracking up and making jokes the day that Obama won the NPP. (Jokes about winning Oscars, Heisman Trophies, etc.) You have to dig pretty far to find any major news media, here or abroad, who feel that the award was warranted, let alone “amazing, wonderful, and in fact miraculous.” One hopes he can achieve something akin to this, but the argument that the world is more peaceful today than a year ago is dubious, at best. That’s why people are laughing. Including Glenn Beck. |
Jana, You have misunderstood at least one aspect of what I meant, which is that the only rationale that I can think of for the award is that it was the will of God. I say this as an Obama supporter. |
Good one. |
I wish we could all do in 2 to 3 weeks what Obama did to be able to deserve this award (Nominations take place around the 1st of February and he was inaugurated in January). That is unless they are considering his promise of hope and his campaign overall. No accomplishments, just words. |
People who carelessly repeat how “Obama shouldn’t have won the award” are just ignorant of how he is perceived internationally. The award, after all, is for what someone has done in the world, not just in the USA. He didn’t nominate himself, after all. |
Of course, this means that, not only did Obama steal the nomination from Hilary, but also the presidency and the Nobel. Big loss for the Clintons. |
Paul, I think that one can have legitimate criticisms of Obama receiving the prize without resorting to that sort of disingenuous argument. |
People keep pointing out that our President was only in office a couple weeks when he was nominated, but being President is only the latest segment of Barack Obama’s life. Before that he ran a peaceful presidential campaign, was a peaceful United States Senator for a few years, promoted peace in the Illinois state legislature, peacefully edited his law school’s journal, and on and on, dating back to his birth in Hawaii, which I hear has been a peaceful place for decades. The world needs peaceful guys like President Obama, so it is nice that the Nobel committee is recognizing one of them who has risen to prominence. |
Again, my point has been made. Thanks for reiterating it so well John Mansfield (whether you meant to or not). There are so many other deserving, “peace”ful people in the world. Why should one that got elected president get the award; simply because of the fact that he dethroned Bush, who was gone anyway? a random John: How is my argument disingenuous? He was only President for a few weeks and prior to that he did nothing more than campaign for President and win, with a lot of hollow promises, not unlike anybody else who runs for office. Should we therefore give it to everybody that runs for the office and is successful? I would like to see some accomplishments first before giving him an award of such magnitude. But then again, can it really mean all that much when Al Gore wins the award for bogus science and a horrible documentary/movie. |
a random John: After reading your previous comment(#10), I now think I get the meaning of your blog. I can be a little slow sometimes when I want to prove a point. I was just trying to be too logical and a bit too sarcastic. |
ARJ – nice connection. So the Religious Right IS responsible for the Nobel Peace Prize. Wow, God DOES work in mysterious ways… |
Maybe God is actually answering their prayers in the opposite way- I mean, if He has the kind of influence spoken of here, it seems like he’s been working for years to de-legitimize the peace prize. |
nasamomdele, That is certainly one way of looking at it, and I’m glad that at least one conservative took the post in the spirit it was intended. :) |