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Cool. |
I have a relative that apparently sported a rascal beater at Gallatin Election day battle and cried out “Oh yes, you Danites, here is a job for us” in order to rally the Mormons. |
One of my ancestors was one of the bodyguards at Carthage. Hearbreaking to think of what he thought… |
I have this idea that most Mormons find this Porter Rockwell guy really interesting because he got away with doing all these things that would get you kicked out of the Mormon church these days. |
SUNN: _Allegedly_ got away with. He was never convicted, was he? |
“A Book of Mormons” with brief bios of famous Mormons is now online at: http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/Mormons/porter_rockwell.htm#rockwell It was copyrighted 1982, and someone gave me a copy shortly after I was baptized. It was written by faithful believing Mormons, but many of the bios contain “warts and all” parts. So I think it helped a bit in “innoculating” me against the surprise imperfections of past leaders or prominent members. |
I was quite surprised to learn this today – mainly surprised that I hadn’t learned about it sooner. Also, I’m honestly unsure quite what to feel about it. |
J. Stapley, I had to google the phrase “rascal beater” to know what you were talking about. It seems there is a name connected with the phrase “rascal beater” – Stephen Markham. Is that the person you were talking about? |
I find Porter Rockwell pretty interesting. |
danithew, so what? You’re 6 degrees separated from the person and event. |
I’ve been surprised at some of the connections in my family ancestry and some aspects of church history. However, nothing quite like destroying the Nauvoo Expositor, or being a Danite, though. How, exactly, does one “sport” a rascal beater, J? Is that like concealed carry? |
#5 I was mostly talking about drinking. |
Porter Rockwell is pretty interesting. According to my family history, he shot two of the sons of Alexander McCray (an ancestor of mine who was in Liberty Jail with the prophet and who served as a bishop in Salt Lake for a couple of decades). According to the story, the two young men were accused of stealing a mule (apparently part of a dispute with a neighbor), and Porter Rockwell and another officer chased them up Emigration Canyon, shot them both, and dumped their bodies in the McCray’s front yard. |
Sunn: huh? Drinking gets you kicked out of the church these days? That’s news to me. |
I learned (as an adult, after my brother did some research) that I have a questionable church/family history connection too. I wrote about it here. |
My wife and I were doing some family history research. Turns out each of us had ancestors that served in the Mormon Battalion. What we discovered, however, is that our two ancestors that served in the Battalion (each with different last names) were cousins! Making my wife and I fifth cousins. Fortunately our kids have turned out to be intelligent and by all outward appearances, normal even though they are each others sixth cousins… |
Correction, my wife and I are sixth cousins (we share a set of g-g-g-g-g-grandparents but not a set of g-g-g-g-grandparents), making my kids each others’ seventh cousins (if you trace them independently up 2 separate lines. My wife doesn’t like me to share this story. It freaks her out. |
#14 If they have free beer at church events i’ll go. |
When I read David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, I was thrilled and proud to discover a family member had a positive role in the events surrounding the lifting of the priesthood ban. |
My daughter was less than impressed that she has a ggggggggggggggrandmother named Elizabeth Bennett. I guess the kids don’t read Austen these days. |
Queuno (35): You can also add to your list: Al Gore |
Sorry. Posted to the wrong thread… My bad. |
Jota G, When my wife and I applied for a marriage license they asked if we were related within 6 degrees of consanguinity. As we are not I have no idea what they would have done if we had answered, “Yes!” Probably taken us out back and beat us with a pipe. |
Here’s an easy chart that illustrates degree. http://www.sanantonio.gov/atty/ethics/ConsanguinityChart.htm |
Bookslinger, I felt separated from the Expositor event before I learned about this family connection – now it means a little more to me. Not because it has to – I just happen to care a lot about being a Mormon and feel a bit attached to my ancestors. |
John (23), My wife and my distant relation, is not within 6 degrees of consanguinity, it’s more like the 14th degree. |
Jota G, Very true. The chart Bookslinger points to is very informative. |
One of my gggggggggg-grandfathers (don’t know exactly how many back he was), who was a pretty important man in his day, had an affair with his deceased son’s widow, which resulted in a couple of children. He was a widower, so I guess the sin was fornication, but technically not adultery, since they were both not married. Story here: http://bit.ly/dz5UZq |