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I’ve never attended a UFC (and have only caught bits and pieces of UCF bouts on TV), but I will freely admit that boxing has been on my list of ‘guilty’ pleasures for most of my life. Don’t know what it is, but if I run across a boxing match on TV, I will usually sit down and watch it to the end. ..bruce.. |
Thanks for this, DKL. I’m a big fan of the UFC and MMA. I love the eclectic nature of the disciplines, the technical methods of submitting another human being. I think UFC does a great job of personalizing the fighters. I know dozens of UFC fighters. Boxers aren’t promoted in that way; people don’t know anything about them, and so it’s hard to be interested in them. |
I love MMA. I’m looking forward to the next UFC event: Frank Mir vs Mirko Cro Cop. ‘Otta be pretty good. DKL, What can we expect to pay for a decent seat at a live event? I’ve heard that the best seats are between 800 to a 1000 bucks. |
Great report. Looks like you had a great viewing point. I was a big boxing fan for years, usually avoided MMA, but when I watched my first UFC pay-per-view and a season of TUF a couple years ago, I completely understood the attraction and was quickly converted. UFC scheduled to have a Versus Fight Night here in Salt Lake a couple months ago, but scheduled it on a Sunday, so it didn’t really sell quick enough for Dana White, so got moved to Oakland, CA. I can only hope it makes it back to Salt Lake sometime, but it might be awhile. |
Well, if you’re as conciliatory as DKL is, fights are an uncommon aspect of life. |
What a cute cute couple. But this event just doesn’t sound fun to me at all. |
I’ve talked with Rhadi Ferguson who hopes to compete at that level some day (though he has already been to the Olympics). It is an amazing world, though I’m not sure I could bring myself to watch the competitions. |
I would really enjoy seeing Cro-Cop kick Brock Lesnar in the head… Lesnar would be out before he had a chance to roll up in a ball. |
bfwebster, I still enjoy boxing, but not nearly as much as I used to, not since I’ve started watching UFC. UFC is what boxing should have been. It’s a lot more fun. Plus, it is (ironically) a lot less damaging to the competitor — it’s just 3 five-minute rounds, or 5 five-minute rounds for a title bout. Look at Randy Couture and James Toney. Couture is 47, has been in countless UFC fights, and he speaks and comports himself like an intelligent person. Toney is 41, and (unfortunately) he sounds like every other boxer over 30: punch drunk. Even fighters like Frank Mir, who were once nice looking but now look pretty beaten up, aren’t punch drunk. Kevin, I agree that UFC does a better job promoting its individual competitors. It also helps that the individual fighters fight more often in UFC, at least 2 or 3 times per year, so that you get to know them over time. Boxing events are too few and far between, and the top ranked boxers fight so seldom that it’s hard to maintain an interest over time. Plus, UFC fights are just more exciting. More can happen. Jack, I’m looking forward to the next UFC, too. However, I don’t think that Mir vs. Cro Cop is really a fair fight. Mir is a top-ranked fighter, and though Cro Cop might have been ranked years ago, the sport has moved on. Don’t get me wrong, I love Cro Cop, I love to see him fight, and winning this one would catapult him into a whole different league. But he couldn’t even beat Cheick Kongo. I don’t think he has a prayer against Mir. Dallas, that’s too bad that they scheduled the fight for a Sunday night. How could they be that dumb? I suspect that one reason why the UFC is starting to branch out to other states is because MMA is now mainstream enough that there’s no longer a risk that the athletic commission of any given state will deny them licenses. annegb, thanks! You’d actually love UFC. It’s the most exciting sport. Stephen M, that would be awesome if Rhadi Ferguson did UFC. Judo and BJJ make a great bases for MMA fighting. He’d be the kind of competitor that trainers would stand in line to train. SUNNofaB.C.Rich, I don’t like Lesnar, and I’d like nothing more than to see him get destroyed for 5 rounds the way Carwin managed to destroy him for just one. But Cro Cop just ain’t the guy to do it. In his next fight, I think that Lesner is going to destroy Cain Velasquez. I did run into some Mexicans in the parking lot outside of a grocery store on the night of UFC 117, when I happened to be in Utah for Sunstone. I heard them talking about UFC, so I asked if there were any bars around showing UFC 117. They said no, and then started to talk about how Valasquez is going to kill Lesnar. I just hope that when Lesnar wins, Obama can keep himself from saying something that fuels racial hatred. Given Obama’s history in that area, it may be too much to expect. |
arj, I haven’t actually been in a fight forever. One time, I was stuck in traffic at the intersection of Brookline Ave and Huntington Ave when there was a game at Fenway. I ended up being the driver who was unlucky enough to have the car immediately in front of me be the last one that could plausibly slip through the intersection after the light had turned red. Thanks to gridlock, we had to sit through a bunch of green lights before there was room for us to pull into the intersection. The vehicle behind me was a guy in a semi, who was pretty unhappy that I’d stopped. After he honked for a minute or two, he started shouting something at me from his window. I had a friend in the car who’d come to visit from out of town, so I figured I’d have some fun. I stuck my body half-way out of the car and shouted back at him, “You want a piece of me?” over and over as loud as I could. Finally, he waved his hand dismissively, and he shouted “Fag!” and shut the hell up. My friend and I laughed about that for the next half hour or so. Also, at Sunstone, I thought that there was an off chance that someone from the bloggernacle might just walk up and hit me straight in the honker. But it didn’t happen. At my age, nobody seems to want to fight me. |
That is because Jesus missed Sunstone this year. |
DKL, I agree — my heart’s with Cro Cop but my money is (reluctantly) with Mir. |
Yeah, Jack, you’ve gotta respect Cro Cop for stepping up to fight Mir. It was originally supposed to be a rematch with Nogueira, who had to pull out because his knee still isn’t ready. Whenever that rematch occurs, it will be a great fight. |
wow… I had no idea that you had this side to you, although I shouldn’t be surprised. By the way, when do we get your download on Sunstone? I look forward to those conference reports. |
I’ve watched MMA/UFC since 1997-ish in high school. We used to go over to my buddy’s house and watch on illegal cable. It’s a good time, and can be very technical. There’s a general conflict between boxing fans and MMA fans, too. The boxing culture sees MMA as unsophisticated and boring. As with most sports, I think MMA is extremely technical and the training/learning that goes into developing the skill set is phenomenal. Especially with the evolution over the years. |
That is so funny, DKL. But I probably wouldn’t like it. For all my bluster, I don’t like to watch violence. |
I’m pretty sure Alistair Overeem would absolutely destroy Lesnar… That guys a monster… I wouldn’t count Velasquez out though. Carwins a beast but he punched himself out, cardio was sucking in the 2nd round, if Velasquez plays his cards right he could do it. you don’t have to have hands bigger than the guy to beat him. Lesnar couldn’t finish Heath Herring. As for Cro Cop… anythings possible all he’d have to is kick him in the head before Lesnar had a chance to lay on him. |
MMA is one of my guilty pleasures too. I actually worked ringside at some of the Vegas shows a while back on Showtime and HBO. Some of those fighters really get beat up. While I enjoy UFC and MMA, I do have to agree with John McCain that it seems like “human cockfighting.” DKL, I’m impressed that your wife went with you. My wife thinks football is too violent, and she wouldn’t be caught dead at an event like this. When I was single, my brother used to round up a bunch of guys at my house and we’d watch it on Pay-per-view. We go back to the no time limit matches (pre Dana White) where Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock ruled. Back then it was more like Bloodsport. |
Mormon Heretic, that’s awesome. I’d love to work ringside for a few matches. My wife is a fan, but only a recent convert. Her favorite fights are Cro Cop vs Barry and Sonnen vs Silva. She doesn’t share my enthusiasm for Sonnen’s trash talking, but she can appreciate the humor in some of the things that he says. Nevertheless, I believe that she is the best wife ever — not to take anything away from your wife, of course. |
hey DKL, guess those Mexicans were right about Velasquez… Lesnar, the cowardly lion… LOL he needs to go back to fake wrasslin. Roy Nelson vs. Velasquez… that’d be a great fight. |
Korean Zombie vs. Leonard Garcia… fight of the year. |
That fight was just unbelievable. I love watching that over and over. It was a great year for fights. like Sonnen vs. Silve and Henderson vs Petit. Valasquez vs Lesnar was a great fight just because it was great to see Lesnar get totally dominated. |
Ya totally, nobody’s man-handled Anderson Silva like Sonnen did, he definitely backed up all the talk. He tagged him good standing up too. Henderson vs. Pettis that was an unbelievable fight too with that kick in the 5th round… insane! I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw that! |
That ninja matrix kick off the cage in the 5th round will go down in history. |
Lookin forward to JDS vs. Velasquez, Belfort vs. Silva, Pettis vs. Maynard/Edgar in 2011. Always rooting for: Fedor (of course) Big Nog, Cro-cop (I’ve got a unibrow too..) Struve (he’s 21-4 and he’s only 22 years old! and that fight against Buentello.. man..) Nelson (that dude’s funny! I kinda like seein the fat guy beat up muscle dummies too) Machida, Henderson, Sonnen (the trash talk is hilarious! and I think he could possibly be insane but he’s good.) Leben (a wayward soul but man I love his fights) Maia (watch this guy…) Daley (used to drive tanks in the British army) Thiago Silva, Sotiropoulos (Greek dude in Australia, about time we see an Aussie do good in the UFC) Lyle “fancy pants” Beerbohm (what’s not to like about this guy..) |