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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. The fact that, in the Church, this kind of silly, misandric pablum so often goes unchallenged is more indicative of the current Mormon-gender environment than the OP. |
Great: challenge it. |
1. Women do what women want to do. So women complain that lists of things they want to do, done by them, are sexist and banal, and is not their fault. Challenge? The author was female, so it reflects a female centric view. It should be clear it was not written by a man, because there is not one mention of home teaching. Surprising no mention of visiting teaching, but I guess Sisters have more important things to do (See 1, 2, & 3, and this post). |
I think it’s an example of self-deprecating humor. I don’t see any harm. It even left out green jello (with or without vegetables/fruit* in it), funeral potatoes, and ambrosia salad. *Just for the record, I think jello with fruit (canned, frozen or fresh) is fine. It’s the vegetables (e.g. carrots) in the jello that I think is wrong. |
Bookslinger–I’m with you on the jello; where do you fall on dairy products? Steve–I don’t have anything nice to say to that. |
I think it is the use of word combinations like, “misandric pablum” that should not go unchallenged. Seriously, you couldn’t have used plainer english? I guess “anti-male processed cereal for infants” doesn’t sound as intelligent. |
Word. “Misandric pablum” is the phrase that pays. I’m not sure if “misandric” is a word. Misandry is, and misandrist is. Should it be misandristic (like misogynistic)? Probably. In any event, there’s nothing anti-male about any of this. |
It’s a great list, especially if you are capable of laughing at yourself. It strikes me that it’s similar to “The Singles Ward” or “The RM” in that way. However, purely as a matter of taste: Twilight and The Work and the Glory are WAY overhyped, and only one of them has anything even approaching literary value (and it’s the one without glitter). Oh, and Glenn Beck is an insufferable dolt. There, I said it. |
I found it humorous and enjoyed reading it. I also found the comments by males quite interesting. |
@Steve, great insight. Probably worthy of a more in-depth discussion. And not just directed at women. I think all of us do what we want to do but complain later that we were only doing them because we thought we should be doing them. Human nature. |
I was enjoying this list until I heard it compared to “The Singles Ward” or “The RM” Yikes! I like mormon based self-deprecating humor, as long as it is in good taste, and its not the same old jokes we’ve heard a million times. I hope we never lose the ability to laugh at ourselves. We’re strange in a lot of ways. Some should be celebrated, others should be light-heartedly mocked. |
Just a personal observation here- It seems that in a lot of bloggernacle conversations about Mormon Culture people emphasize that so many of the things we may hate about Mormon Culture don’t come from the Church itself but just from the way people are. However I think sometimes the Church is guilty of perpetuating it. For example, an Ensign story from last year highlights a woman who was “…on track when she married Shawn, a returned missionary, in the temple.” Thank you Church Magazines for subtly encouraging the misconception that returned missionary = worthy priesthood holder. Sorry, I just had to get that one off my chest. |
Coming from a an older guy, I guess that I don’t find this stuff very amusing. I kind of get the stereotypes, but it in no way represents anything like the reality for my parents, my wife, my children, my ward, or my experience as a life-long member. There is not even a grain of truth here. I am actually mildly insulted. We have lots of shortcomings, but these aren’t them. I suppose the experiences of my family and I are way out of the mainstream, but I bet not. |
Calm down there Mr. Donaldson. It was funny, and like a lot of humor, there is more than a grain of truth in this list. I am sorry that you are mildly insulted, but like it or not, it definately represents part of the reality of Mormon culture. At least as Mormon culture is found in the Intermountain West. |
I don’t think it’s funny or clever – but to each his/her own, |
I’m older. I didn’t laugh out loud but I found many amusing. It’s incredibly healthy to gently mock oneself–or one’s religion. I suspect there are many things that the Lords finds humorous and entertaining–and not very important. Like when I get going about women saying the opening prayer. It’s a “Seinfield” kind of griping. And when the men of my ward ask a woman to give the opening prayer, watching my reaction with the wind taken out of my sails, it’s funny, Jim. Being able to laugh at oneself is the epitome of a sense of humor. Our church is crazy and funny and wonderful. If all we think “we Mormons have butts of gold” we’re pretty useless. |
I think its a funny little write-up on our culture. |
I for one had to laugh out loud. It is funny and anyone who didn’t think there was a little truth to it is not UP on what some members and even non-members think. |
I’m not worked up, uptight, nor lack a sense of humor. To me, this just isn’t that clever or funny. It’s tired and takes worn out ideas that don’t apply to my life or those around me—maybe somebody somewhere. Some of it is simply incoherent. It’s not irreverent; it isn’t even silly—it just misses the mark. There are lots of funny things about Mormonism, just that Twilight and scrapbooking (for example) aren’t it. Those things are hardly Mormon monopolies or even found in a significant percentage. At least here. It may be a Utah thing. I wouldn’t know, though I’m a mountain state over, Colorado. There must not be much leakage. It certainly isn’t my culture. What’s more—it isn’t worth arguing about. |
You can always tell when someone lacks a sense of humor by the fact that they have to announce to the world that they don’t lack a sense of humor. Hopefully, for your sake Jim, someday, someone writes the 13 Articles of Jim Donaldson. But since writing up a satire of your experience was in no way the objective of this piece of writing, you can hardly fault it for not matching your experience. |
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Jim I think I get what you’re saying, and it’s kind of what I was thinking of when I made the Singles Ward and RM references. I found Singles Ward to be funny because I had spent a few years in a singles branch, and I could relate to a lot of the in-jokes. While they weren’t necessarily side-splitting, there was enough tongue planted firmly in cheek to entertain me. I couldn’t relate to RM, however, aside from an occasional, “Oh, yeah, I’ve heard some of these stereotypes about Utah Mormons,” even though I knew that some people found it to be hilarious. In my area, several of the points on this list ring true, and earn a chuckle from me for the way they reflect the local Mormon culture. Others, however, seem to be stretching a bit in their attempt to be funny. And I’m still wondering if the Glenn Beck comment was supposed to be deliberately insulting or not. |
I am new to the Church and found this. I am not against humor, and I am sure the author meant this with good intentions. I didn’t catch til the end that allot of it was about women. I would rewrite it and place the church culture as a whole, as said this was written by a sister, from asister’s view. all in fun, enjoy! |
Maybe I’m just in a silly mood but I laughed till tears ran down my face. |
Well, I just think this was sooooo funny, come on, let’s just laugh, or yeah, about Glenn Beck, love him, he inspires me, drives me nuts, scares me, and gets me off my butt, and sometimes, he’s a dummy…..but I love him. |