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I am from Parma II Ward in Parma, Idaho. I do not think they would have had any problem with what you just shared. I am in the Nyssa, Oregon Stake and I cannot imagine any of the two Stake Presidents I have had or any of their counselors that would have dismissed female interpretors if there were not male interpretors to take their place. I believe they would be good about it. |
I’m pretty sure my stake would never allow a woman to be voice in these circumstances. Which gets my back up and I’m trying to be positive so I’m going to bed. It sounds lovely, though. |
I think my feathers would be ruffled by people who have the audacity to dismiss interpreters on account that they are women, even for a priesthood meeting. I mean, what on earth is shared in priesthood meeting that a woman shouldn’t be allowed to hear? If it were pertinent that women never hear what takes place in priesthood then shouldn’t the leaders all carefully make sure that every husband, brother, or son decides to take some sacrilegious oath that all females in their respective homes never hear what took place during priesthood meeting? Shouldn’t the brethren make sure that world wide priesthood meetings information from talks aren’t available for women on lds.org? And yet they are. If it’s a matter of information, there’s nothing secret or special being shared that any sister who reads or studies at all wouldn’t already know about. I have listened to what has been taught in general relief society meetings and have been rewarded for doing so. So what? I don’t lose man points. I didn’t invade some meeting that all men are doctrinally banned from. There’s simply no good reason to keep sisters from serving in priesthood meetings in general when necessity arises, and plenty of good reasons for the necessary sisters to serve the needs of those who cannot help themselves. Gah, leaders should learn and apply doctrine, not cultural norms (which, quite frankly could be construed as sexist) that hinder the building up of the kingdom of God. |
As High Councilor, I spok ein a ward with several deaf members. I told a joke and the interpreter literally fell out of his chair laughing. After that I never told jokes in my HC talks. |
Now’s another time to break out the handy CHI. Section 21.1.26 is a lengthy list protecting the needs of deaf members in all kinds of circumstances. The applicable one here is:
So while feathers may be ruffled, there’s a defense there to guard against any petty on-the-spot unauthorized rule-making (“women can’t speak the words of ordinances”) that any local member might raise. I suppose some hair-splitter would say this didn’t apply in ESO’s case because it was the voice instead of the recipient who was deaf … |
I would guess my stake may have issues although I would not. However, with Ardis’ ammunition, I am ready for “battle” |
My ward and stake does things “by the book.” So…since “the book” says this is alright (thanks for the reference, Ardis), I doubt anyone would have an issue with it. |
I can’t really imagine a female interpreter in this situation causing any issues in my ward. |
I sure don’t see any problem with it and my Bishop has a pretty liberal attitude that unless it’s specifically prohibited it’s ok. He recently told us that he doesn’t read the handbook much, so if anyone thinks we’re doing things that are not in accord with the handbook, he’s willing to change, but it will have to be pointed out to him, he’s probably not going to make the changes on his own. |
How could there be an issue? The “voice” in the ordinance is a priesthood holder. Period. Glad the CHI seems to agree. Further, I wonder in how many of those units only men interpret the sacrament prayers into ASL. In my sister’s ward (where she has been an ASL interpreter for many years), they have done different things at different times for the sacrament prayers, including finger-spelling them (requiring the priests to read the prayers very, very slowly to allow the finger-spelling interpreters to keep up). More recently she mentioned that the church had an “approved” ASL translation that was used, though I’m not sure what the present practice is. Dismiss an ASL interpreter from a priesthood meeting?? Wow. |
As far as I remember, there’s nothing in the CHI that bans women from Stake Level or ward level priesthood meetings, or Priesthood meeting of General conference. If the father is not active, or not available, I would encourage mom’s to take their Aaronic priesthood age sons to those stake or general conference priesthood meetings, if their home-teachers or other ward priesthood leaders don’t. Besides, single moms (and I suppose married moms whose husbands aren’t active) need to know what boys are taught in those meetings and reinforce those lessons. |