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I have mixed emotions about this poem. The fear bothers me. There’s love of God expressed, and a sort of faith, but if there was real faith, why would the question be asked at all. It’s too tentative for me. I love Walt Whitman’s opinion of death–that it’s lucky. I will have to look up anthromorphism. |
What is your favorite line? |
I don’t really see fear in it, and it sounds a little Momonish with the “our First-born Brother” language. It’s basically a long plea to awaken to sight of the Savior after death. But the language is so formal and outdated that it almost sounds like a parody. When was it written? And what’s the translation of the title? |
Annegb, the line that got me looking for the poem was this:
I kind of liked this idea of equating God with a human face rather than a huge expanse of heavens. |
I liked that, too….I thought it was referring to relatives. I’m pretty sure my relatives will be there. |
But Mcq, why the need for a plea if you aren’t afraid to die? I would say, in my poem, “I KNOW I’ll see you.” Poetically, if I could write poetry. |
I think he’s afraid of waking up alone. It shows he doesn’t fear death, and knows God is there, but wants to be able to see Christ’s face there after he passes through death. Not necessarily because he’s afraid. He just wants to see the Savior. |
I should explain a little better why I liked this poem so much. I’ve been studying, for awhile, about attempts made in monotheistic religions to do away with or explain away anthropomorphic passages that occur in their scriptures. I’ve been particularly looking at Islam and the Qur’an – but Judaism and Christianity and some other (even non-monotheistic) religions have also been in the picture. It’s been interesting to read a book by Stewart Guthrie that comes to the conclusion that “religion is anthropomorphism.” I think his conclusion is correct. It’s become clearer to me that we as human beings look at the world as human-like – it’s built into our psychology and perspectives and I think on a deep level we instinctively yearn for a God we can speak to and who speaks to us. At the same time, many scholars have perceived God as so transcendent and have pushed that idea to such an extreme, that they have tried to take away from God any human characteristics and attributes. After reading quite a bit about this, the poem above, I felt, expressed a very pure instinct and desire for a God with person-hood, personality, a face. I think that’s a beautiful thing, in many ways. It’s simpler and obviously for Mormons there is a sense that this instinct is potentially a very true guide (as long as it does not lead to idolatry). So in some ways, after reading through some very complex and convoluted material on the subject of the nature of God, the paradox of his transcendence and immanence, I found this poem was refreshing. |
Mcq, you know there’s no waking up, right, just a walking through a door to another place. The body might lose consciousness when one dies, but the spirit does not. Daniel, I have to study that a bit more. |
annegb, I didn’t write the poem. I’m just telling you what it sounds like the poem is saying. |
annegb, I didn’t write the poem. I’m just telling you what it sounds like the poem is saying. “Where, in what regions shall the Wanderer waken, Gazing on whom?” |