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I have a Suburban too, and our church parking lot is heavily peppered with Suburbans and minivans. I think mostly what it says is that we have families too big for a sedan. We need more than five seatbelts, for the most part. |
We just sold our minivan and now drive a 7 passenger SUV. We also own a sedan, which is not big enough for the whole family. |
Vehicle 1 — Audi A4 Convertible. Vehicle 2 — Kia Sedona minivan, but with child #5 imminent, we need to upsize to a Suburban. 4WD is a necessity in this area as well. Many, many 4WD vehicles in our ward building’s parking lot; many festooned with sundry anti-abortion bumper stickers. |
Most people around here drive SUVs whether they have 2 kids or 6 kids. We drive a Camry and a Saturn. |
Honda Rebel– for the teens to learn the use of motor vehicles. Honda 599– for dad’s sanity Mini Cooper S JCW– because it’s fast, cool, and unique Mazda MPV– the last true minivan Mostly I see lots of very expensive SUVs and Honda/Toyota minivans in the church lot. Sprinkled in among the behemoths are the occasional four door sedan– usually German or Japanese. Mostly I think it says that we way over-estimate our needs when it comes to transportation and that we are far to cavalier about plunking down large sums of cash/credit in the event that we might need to haul around nine people one time in our life. Take comment #3– he already owns a vehicle that seats seven but because his family now will have seven member he inexplicably now needs a vehicle that seats 8 or 9. It’s wasteful, but to each his own. |
Mostly sedans. Some minivans and a few SUVs sprinkled in. |
We were a one car family (17 out of 18 years of marriage we’ve had only one car) of 6 with a Ford Explorer. It was incredibly difficult to pack for a trip to MILs or camping because there was no storage space. We finally bought a second car a few months ago because with some new commitments and our kids growing up it was just to stressful to try to do it with one car. Honda Odyssey. No work commute for either vehicle. |
A 1997 Geo Prism. One kid, one on the way. We’ll get a second vehicle as soon as we have the money (which might be a while in this economy). And there’s no way to fit three kids in various forms of baby seats in a car that small, so we’ll have to upgrade to something larger (probably an SUV or minivan in order to have room for a potential fourth kid). As far as community goes–in Utah and Idaho, lots of big vehicles (SUVs, trucks, etc.) Out here in the Midwest, the LDS families aren’t any smaller, but the vehicle sizes tend to be much smaller and not as fancy. I guess people can interpret what they want from that. |
My parents had 10 kids and we did not travel all in one vehicle probably after kid # 8. We had a full-size van, not extra long, and of course, we didn’t have so many carseat requirements, which are the real killer. Here in NY kids have to be in car seats until age 8, so there really isn’t too much opportunity to cram 5 kids along one bench seat. I always wonder why people bother about having a vehicle that everyone fits into. It is a relatively rare occurrence that you are all actually going to the same place at the same time from the same point of origin. My parents always had different arrival times at church, based on callings, and giving people rides. If we were doing something together in the evening, my dad usually came from work, not home–just met us there. Especially as kids get older, there is nearly always someone who has to get somewhere, be dropped off or picked up, or run a quick errand on the way to or from any family events, so it makes more sense just to waylay a portion of the family and send everyone else home in the bigger vehicle. When driving cross country, which is probably much less common now than then, we took two cars and walkie-talkies, now, of course, cell phones. That was sometimes helpful to separate testy siblings for a time, or just get the variety of traveling with a different group part of the way. Most of the parking lot is mini-vans, but of course we have a fair smattering of 4-wheel-drive vehicles (which we actually need, here, this is not just a vanity add-on). I always try to avoid parking by the Suburbans–I stick to neighbors with sliding doors because in my experience, kids getting out of suburbans push their doors into the neighboring vehicles about 50% of the time. While my 10 year old van is certainly not pristine, I try to avoid dents when I can. During the summer, we try to bike or walk to Church. |
Car 1: 2005 Mercury Mariner (Ford Escape) When we only had ZJ, we liked to be prideful that we were living within our means and look down on the people with the Behemoth SUV’s. Then we got child #2. 1 parent has to sit in the back to take care of the baby which means it is now too small. When I sit back there, I have to wedge my buttocks in to a space that I am quite sure is half as big as it needs to be. Now I understand why even small families buy the big ones or even the [gasp] Minivans. |
I drive a Chevy, uh, Equinox. Nice car. I like it, but my true car is Mercedes-Benz with a really big engine and leather interior. Bill drives cherried up 4 wheel drive Chevy trucks. I say trucks because he’s a salesman and he gets to custom order the trucks he drives. They are pretty darn cool vehicles. He also calls them vehicles, not cars. Parking lot: some mini-vans, some small SUVs like mine, a lot of 4 wheel drive vehicles, some sedans. They types of cars say that we deal with a lot of snow, and also that a lot of hunters and mountain drivers. However you say that grammatically. I didn’t used to care much or know much about cars before I married Bill. Didn’t know anything about different brands. All I knew was truck or car. Blue or brown. |
4WD is a necessity in this area as well. 4-wheel-drive vehicles (which we actually need, here, this is not just a vanity add-on) Do you live in unincorporated parts of the county with no paved roads or snow removal? Build your house on the wrong end of Helldorado, Metal Masher or Rusty Nail? Inquiring minds want to know! |
I think the large families of course is the easy answer as to why we have so many large vehicles in our ward parking lots. I also think though that there is more to it then that. Americans seem to like larger vehicles. On my street of just 2 mormon families sedans are not that common. It seems that most families have 2 large vehicles no matter what the family size. So I have neighbors with say a Chevy Tahoe and a full size F250 and only 2 kids. |
Freudian psychology explains a phenomenon called overcompensation…… |
JJohnson is right about his observations that 2 or 6 kids leads to large vehicles. I drove a Camry (awesome reliable car) for about 8 years. My wife got in a wreck with it at 30 MPH and it it was really smashed up and she was injured. This wreck, our second (none our fault) in about 12 months made me nervous about smaller cars. Hence the Suburban purchase. |
Nissan Altima and Chrysler Pacifica. Two kids and holding. In the Northeast US, not too many monster vehicles either in or out of the Church beyond those families with the need for a 12-15 passenger van… |
You know what cars annoy me? Humvees! Often in bright yellow. They say “I’m so rich I can drive a Humvee–get out of my way.” |
bbell–you DO live in Texas. It makes a difference. Big houses, big cars. While we have four-wheel drives (yes, because of the snow/ice and hills combo), lots of them are the smaller choices like Subarus. And in my area, we can actually walk to many places, so that doesn’t require a car at all. Big cars are totally an American thing. I just wish we had bigger parking spaces, too. |
Tim- what side of the Midwest do you live on? The parking lot over here is about 90% SUVs and Mini-vans, 10% cars. Of those 10% cars, 90% of them are driven by those attending the singles branch, the leftover 10% is either a member of the bishopric or married students. In our family though we have a Honda civic (husband’s daily commute) and a Dodge Caliber (mommy’s vehicle of transportation). What I don’t understand is that even though the family may be bigger, and thus require a bigger vehicle, why go with the SUV with more blind spots than visual spots? Did all those stories of crushing children in driveways scare anyone into NOT getting one? |
The south east side of the Midwest. Of course, things might be different in different wards, and might depend on how deep of roots the members have with the Mountain West. Also, our ward is small enough that at least half of the active married couples participate in ward council, so many families end up using two cars to get to church because the husband needs to get there at a different time than the wife. And yes, that means, having just one car, I use the 30-minute break between ward council and Sacrament meeting to pick up my family, as we have just one car. When I stand up to leave ward council, it’s a not-so-subtle reminder to the bishop that the meeting should already be over. |
“you DO live in Texas. It makes a difference. Big houses, big cars.” When I first moved to Texas years ago, the first thing I did was get myself a 3500 sq foot wife and a Lexus. |
I’m having nightmares imagining a 3500 sq foot wife… |
Used to have a Suburban but couldn’t afford to keep it…because I got asked to drive kids to every youth activity conceived. (Whatever you do, don’t buy a boat). We have a Volvo XC 90 now. Kids over about 4 feet tall feel super cramped in the back seat, but it’s built like a tank. |
Regarding Texas cars, when I lived in New Mexico north of Santa Fe, if a Cadillac was coming down the road the other way, I could pretty reliably predict it would have Texas plates. |
Honestly, every one of my neighbors has at LEAST two vehicles. Almost all have ATV’s as well. My single sister has 3!!! Two SUV’s and a mini-van. |
Our church doesn’t have a parking lot, and I don’t own a car. The last vehicle I owned was a Chevy Astro, and I was blessed to get rid of it five years ago. We walk the six blocks to church. God willing, I’ll never own a car again. Or, if I do, it’ll come with a driver. |
Three years ago, after child # 2-of-4 went away to college, we sold “Rosie” the ’97 Montana mom-mobile, leaving us with “Jenny” the 5-person ’03 Accord, and “Rusty” the all-useful manual but very dilapidated two-seated ’85 Toyota no-model-name pickup truck. When the older boys visit at home from college/after-mission, they drove Rusty up to the singles ward in a town about 12 miles north. So we had enough car for our family, and that’s about it. My husband recently got a job that requires a 35 mile one-way commute daily. Rusty couldn’t do that trip any more, and we needed Jenny in-town to do kid-toting still. So we researched for the least expensive, highest safety, best gas-mileage car. Last month, “Marie” the ’09 Smart Car joined our family. Marie is a very nice car, a great ride to the temple 65 miles away, and she always catches attention in the church parking lot on those occasions when only two of the four of us have to be there (Priesthood session, YW meeting, or youth firesides). |
My kids LOVE to see Smart Cars–there are 5-6 of them in our town that we see regularly, and the kids have a punch-bug like game sighting them. |
I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. This is probably petty, but then again we’re on the internet so we’re supposed to be petty. IS NOT A SMART CAR! Would you say you just bought a Camry car? How about an Accord car? How about a Mustang car? I didn’t think so. The principle is the same. |
Sorry, but “I just bought a Smart” sounds rather…stupid. I’ve spent over ten years calling them “Smart cars,” as has everyone else I’ve talked to about them. That’s certainly what Americans in Europe (where they have a much bigger presence) refer to them as. Regardless of their official name, the practice of calling them “Smart cars” is here to stay. I think the name “Smart car,” however, just refers to cars shaped like the classic design, and not to some of the newer models that look just like other “normal” cars. |
Tim, I am well aware that this is a battle I can’t possibly win. Nor will I win some of my related battles, such as people referring to their (ANY) brand music player as an iPod, or people referring to their (ANY) brand PDA (with the advent of Smart phones, are these still a thing?) a Palm Pilot, or people walking in to Subway and saying “I’d like a footlong subway(Subway is the name of the store, not the product Jerk.)” I guess, at the ripe old age of 35, I’m just turning in to a crotchety old fart. |
So you use adhesive bandages instead of Band-aids and facial tissues instead of Kleenex? You must be super-fun to live with. |
Ron, do you have similar feelings about adjustable wrenches, locking pliers, hook-and-loop fasteners, and flying disks? |
I drive an SUV. Haven’t been to church lately but I have seen a lot of SUV’s in my town.. and i mean a lot.and I think we tend to buy SUV’s because they are a lot safer. Rachel |