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Absolutely there’s a killer instinct in the church. Though I believe most people call it by another name./ Its’ called defending the church. And, people will defend the church and church leaders even in the face of knowing how badly people have behaved. I have experienced this first hand, which is why I left, this is the reason why I may have only two friends from church left, because they don’t want to hear about the nasty stuff that goes on behind closed doors, but so be it. I’m even prepared to hear nasty responses on what I just posted. |
Diane, you are using ‘killer instinct’ in a negative sense – which is not an approach I took in the OP. My interest is in the positive aspect of a ‘killer instinct’ – in the sense that a person perseveres, endures, finishes, dominates – in spite of fierce opposition or difficulties – and achieves a long-term record of victory and achievement. Besides what I put into the post, I’m also interested in examples from the scriptures or from church history where a ‘killer instinct’ may have been a positive thing. I’m sorry you had such a negative experience and that you ended up leaving the church. But that’s not what this is about. |
@ Dan It might not be what you were writing about, but, the application is still the same. Its’ just neither you, nor anyone else wants to here about it because you haven’t experienced the same things that I have and you want to make your OP fit your view |
Diane, having written the OP, it should represent my views or at least a fledgling perspective that I am testing out, attempting to flesh out and understand better. I wrote this post because I read an article this morning, had some thoughts about it that I was mulling over, and then wrote briefly about some of those thoughts. I did a fairly typical guy thing and attempted to relate sports to the gospel. Sports analogies are, of course, a source of inspiration and endless lesson material to priesthood quorums at all levels throughout the entire world. As far as I can tell, you are preoccupied with a very different set of concerns and experiences – that likely have nothing to do with sports or sports analogies – but do have some connection to negative experiences with the LDS church, that are particularly personal to you. Again, I’m sorry you had negative experiences and that you felt you had to leave the church. I’m not questioning your assertions or your decisions – I simply don’t know enough to go there nor do I feel this is the place for it. I do hope you can find a way to resolve any outstanding issues and be happy. |
… Well, back to what Dan was talking about: I think that as part of going to the MTC missionaries are in a sense taught how to build up that killer instinct to keep going despite the challenges they will face, whether that be physical (if I got robbed in a foreign country my butt would be on the first flight out) or spiritual (since most missionaries face the “Why am I doing this?” crisis at some point). For the rest of us who never wore name tags, it takes some serious motivation to pray and read your scriptures daily. |
Just for the record, it takes serious motivation for me to pray and read scriptures daily – and I did wear the name tags. I would suggest that many of us, (myself included) don’t have enough of that, “killer instinct” we see in these athletes when it comes to living the gospel day in and day out. |
When I was a Softball pitcher back in high school, my coach would sometimes come out to the mound and get right in my face and tell me with “Get one for the Gipper” mentality that I needed to have “killer instinct.” I was a backwards girl who happened to have a gift for pitching but was not very competitive. I never understood what he meant until I was much older. You may not believe how many times we’ve watched the Larry Bird Biographies at my house. I’m not sure of all the connotations of killer instinct when it comes to living the Gospel but I do see where it can be a positive attribute in its place. |