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Argue naked. Seriously. |
You heard that at a Mormon wedding? I don’t remember a single thing from my sealing, despite the fact that we’d already been married about two years. (My wife’s a convert.) As for my first wedding, I remember a 30-minute treatise from the Jehovah’s Witness minister about women’s subservience to men in the ideal home. Man, you think the Proclamation on the Family is rough, you shoulda heard this guy. And seen the scowl on the faces of the many professional women in attendance. |
It’s my belief that counsel given during sealings is not actually intended for those whom the ordinance is for, but rather the loved ones in attendance. I think it can be argued that most people don’t typically remember what was said to them because of all the other intense emotions and feelings going on at the time. |
Ron, thank goodness you have the gift of amnesia in all emotionally charged events. You are probably an awesome person to have at any medical emergency or natural disaster. |
It wasn’t said during the sealing, but during the lunch immediately after for all those in attendance at the sealing. |
As we were waiting in the Celes.Rm to be sealed, a sweet doddering old man came over and whispered he had important marriage advice for us. We leaned in, thinking he would really be profound. He said, “Never have sex on a hill. You will roll down.” We smiled awkwardly and nodded. Seconds later his grown daughter ran over and dragged him away. We didn’t get a chance to tell her what her Dad said. |
LIZ, she probably knows what her dad said. he probably says it at every wedding. |
I just remember the sealer discussing how he recently married his second wife after the passing of his first and how great the second wife was. Note to self: |
My husband’s elderly aunt cornered him in the temple and tried to persuade him to vote for Bo Gritz. He just wanted to get his temple clothes so he could marry me. |
“Old people are weird” ;) |
:) well, really old people are weird; I’m like Ron, I don’t remember any of those words said. I do recall that at the last temple wedding I attended, the officiator made them repeat everything of the sealing because he was worried he said it wrong. He’s a nice guy and a friend of Bill’s, but I said “hon, he’s losing it.” Then about a month later, we ran into him at the store and he said he still thought he forgot something. I thought, “no, you’ve lost some brain cells.” I felt irritated and sorry for the young couple because he didn’t give any words of advice or encouragement, he just repeated the whole temple ceremony. Bill defended him, but I said, “hon, the man is in the throes of early dementia.” How could someone not notice? How can I not be charitable about it? But it was important to those kids. The other thing I remember is that Bill’s ex-wife’s dad sobbed at our wedding. He was a sealer and an invited guest. I felt so sorry for him. The “argue naked”? Not bad advice. |
I would love to go to Jota’s (#1,5) family reunions to see what other treasures of advice they would offer. I have never heard of arguing naked but I imagine that might be helpful for some. For me, not so much. When I’m steamed up about something, it wouldn’t matter who is clothed or not. Everyone is going to get an earful. |
Bill and I always fought over the bills; every month it was the same thing, we sit down, I tell him what I spent and paid and he would get mad at me. Once I put on a red negligee and came in with the bills and we talked about the bills and didn’t fight. I should have done that more often. Now he pays the bills. And we don’t fight because I don’t get mad if he makes a mistake in the checkbook. Either way, I guess. |
That is SO funny, annegb! I should invest in better lingerie. I might get my way more often. |
I was at a Mormon wedding last week that didn’t take place in the temple. The bishop talked about family home evening, patted the groom on the shoulder, and said “That’s your responsibility.” Then he talked at length about how the man should avoid having any mistresses, and said that a mistress was anything that took his mind off his wife. He specifically identified the groom’s job and told him that was a mistress. Then he proceeded to marry them–without saying a single word to the bride. We (the bride’s family) think it was his first time performing a wedding, so we decided to cut him some slack… But we definitely laughed about it afterward. |
The first two weddings I attended (that of a friend and then my own) consisted of the sealer quickly reading off a bullet point list off a clipboard. It was probably the same bullet list – maybe even the same sealer. I didn’t retain much of it due to the speed at which it was given and the sound of mechanical repetition gave nothing for my memory to grasp onto. The third wedding was a ring ceremony performed in the chapel. I consider it a wedding proper as, to my knowledge, not a single member of the groom’s family was able to attend the temple ceremony. The second counselor in the bishopbric did a lovely job expounding on the purpose of marriage and the importance of expressing love to one’s spouse. Oh. Though if I’m going to count ring ceremonies. I attended another friend’s ring ceremony where the bishop yammered for five minutes about how this was just a “ring ceremony” and how the real wedding took place in the temple. And that was that. |
I remember most that the sealer turned out the elevator lights when the three of us where the only ones in there and advised us to get in one last kiss as singles. We complied. I only vaguely remember what the sealer said in the sealing room–something about loving each other and keeping covenants. Nothing offensive. In contrast, I attended another wedding that was very memorable–because the sealer encouraged the husband to try not to get too involved with the kids because that was women’s work and he would just be in the way. No, he wasn’t joking. |