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The standards for getting into the temple are not scriptural based. Our health code is tailored to the lowest common denominator. It is written for those that don’t do well when they drink coffee…per the effects of the caffeine. It is also written for the chain smoker and the alcoholic. Everybody else basically has to suffer with the weakest of saints, even though the effects of a glass of wine on occasion, the cigar on occasion, and the cup of coffee and tea in moderation arguably have positive effects on the body and the spirit. But you are right, Joseph had it ‘revealed’ after a few disgusting messes that Emma had to clean up. With polygamy starting just a few months previous, I’m sure Joseph wanted to stay on Emma’s good side any way he could, this being one of them, not to discredit a ‘revelation’ by any means, just to supplement our understanding of how it came about. |
I know all that stuff, dallske. But GOD did specifically say “NOT BY WAY OF COMMANDMENT.” I submit that since he commanded it NOT be a commandment, only revelation could reverse that. Not any policy. So when did that happen? I think never. |
The best discussion I have ever seen on how the word of wisdom became a “commandment” in a chapter in Thomas Alexander’s “Mormonism in Transition.” It is true that Heber J. Grant was the first president of the church to really push strict obiendence to the word of wisdom. I view this emphasis as setting up a boundary maintenance mechanism to take the place of 19th century mechanism’s such as plural marriage which had become outdated. |
Here’s a link to a PDF file with Alexander’s history of Word of Wisdom observance: http://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V14N03_80.pdf. This question came up in our high priests’ group meeting earlier this year; I tracked down this article on the web over my iPad (I’m such a geek) and quoted a few relevant passages on the spot. ..bruce.. |
Very interesting article. It appears to answer the questions annegb has asked very well, and the answer is somewhat more complicated than I thought. I didn’t know, for instance, that Brigham Young taught that he considered the WoW to be a commandment. That seems to be one of the factors behind Joseph F. Smith and Heber J. Grant taking a more hard-line approach to it. What is odd to me is how the interpretation ended up being that the WoW banned coffee, tea, tobacco and alcohol. If you simply read it, that interpretation is far from a foregone conclusion. In fact, as the article makes clear, many early church leaders did not consider beer to be banned by the WoW, and the plain text of the WoW supports that conclusion very well. The article also makes clear that many early leaders considered meat to be a clear part of the WoW, and that is supported by the text as well. So how did we end up where we ended up? Not by direct revelation, probably, but just interpretation by the prophet that has gone unchallenged for a long time. |
Thanks for putting up the link to the Alexander article. |
Cool stuff with the link. Increases my desire to save up for a subscription to Dialogue. |
dallske, I thought the whole Emma Smith and tobacco thing was just a myth we told ourselves to give women the illusion of having influence. Still took more than a generation for the revelation to turn into commandment. |
Actually, there is a lot more to the story … Nauvoo had a temperance movement. After they went after a distillery, and after Joseph Smith told them to tone things down and go with moderation, there was some pressure, but it was by the brethren on Joseph Smith to tell everyone to knock it off (including Emma). Instead we got the 89th section of the Doctrine and Covenants. On the meat section, there are two different ways to read the punctuation, and a number of discussions about that. But “hot drinks” had a definite definition in the temperance movement of the time. Yes, there was some debate about whether the barley drinks were real beer or small beer without alcohol. But what is more interesting is that there was a time when the pressure against BYU students smoking cigars was only social, with the smokers mocked. But there was a big change in cigars when cigarettes were invented. Initially they were just small cigars. Then the method of curing the tobacco changed. If you inhale a cigar’s smoke into your lungs, it doesn’t do anything. A cigarette’s smoke will do something because of the difference in the curing (much more acidic than the typical western cigar). That change coincides with Heber J. Grant and the changes in the word of wisdom’s emphasis. Anyway … |
My reading of Section 89 itself is that both beer and wine are allowed but hard drinks (I interpret that to mean distilled to concentrate the alcohol as opposed to mild drinks) are not. That said, I’ve never had either. I wonder what makes Danish beer special… In any case the modern understanding of the term “the Word of Wisdom” seems to be based on Section 89 but it clearly is not Section 89. |
You know, it’s a good thing that members of our church are, overall, (or so I’ve heard) pretty healthy due to the Word of Wisdom. It’s not a bad thing–it’s a good thing. Especially the message of moderation. Whether it’s strictly interpreted or a bit more lax (ie pepsi, even the occasional cup of coffee), mostly it’s a good thing. I guess my sense of “what??!!”stems from watching people who don’t obey the Word of Wisdom treated unkindly. Boy, it is one obvious departure from the norm and mores of our society. I think on the whole, you can get away with a lot of other sins as long as you DON’T drink or smoke and DO go to church every Sunday. I think we’ve gone overboard in our attitudes in this regard. To the point where we feel uncomfortable if someone less active orders a cup of coffee with breakfast. That’s crazy. Why don’t we feel that uncomfortable when someone more “active” gets uppity and judgemental. We pick and choose the reasons for our ostracism and for some reason the Word of Wisdom is a bigger deal than not loving our neighbor. Now I read “NOT BY WAY OF COMMANDMENT” and I’m bugged. But basically, all I’m going to do is have it in perspective in my head and let it go. Because, I guess, the bottom line, it is a pretty wise way of life. Overall. |
If every prophet since Heber J. Grant says that it’s now a commandment, I’m going to at least try to live it. Remember what Ezra Taft Benson said, and what GBH reaffirmed, a prophet doesn’t have to say “Thus saith the Lord…” (or put something in the D&C) in order to make it a commandment. As Brigham said, or maybe it’s just a paraphrase: “Living prophets trump dead ones.” HJG was a living prophet, and Joseph Smith Jr. was dead. And by extension, Thomas S. Monson trumps Joseph Smith Jr. too, at least _for us_. |
I guess so. I didn’t remember President Benson saying that. Fine, I’ll drop it :) |
Here’s the link, from a talk at BYU in 1980. Reprinted in the June 1981 Liahona. I remember it being referred to in General conference within the last few years. http://lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng |
RE: WoW (going from memory while using a phone…) To me this subject is interesting because it sums up what it is to be a latter day saint. Ultimately the point is to become joint heirs with Christ and we can’t do that without becoming like him. And thatsmpossible wwithout his grace, but we also need to make choices that give evidence to the fact we want to follow him. By following the WoW we are in effect making the will of the lord our will and our action. It was originally not the kind of commandment that was widely enforced because it was always something free for us to decide to bring our will in line with the Lords. But in a chruch Where the purpose is exaltation if you’re not even interested from the get go of bring your acts in line with what the Lord says is his will then why bother or how do we expect to receive what comes next? I’m using the you and yours in a broad sense…. I’ve thought a lot about this for myself and these are the answers which have distilled upon my own soul as it were… |