You’ll be shocked to know just how much one can get away with in the latest of garment cuts. I have one where the sleeves are pretty nonexistent thanks to the fabric folding in on itself. Just so happens to be the same top where I could wear a low-cut if I really wanted to. Oh, and since the bottom likes to curl in, I guess some stomach bearing is ok too.

But I’m pretty sure I’m buying my tops a size too small…

Yeah, totally wearable with the new snug tops. I don’t see anything wrong with a nude lining either, if that’s what she did. We’re supposed to wear the g’s under the guidance of our conscious. We’ve strayed too far into the territory of jot and tittle orthodox rules, imho.

Ok, sorry, I reread your post. On second reading it seems more like you really want to know the secret of how to turn a wedding dress into a temple wedding dress. Yeah, it is pretty simple. You just add material. I had it done to mine. I’ve added material to other dresses. It does make it easier sometimes if you don’t try to add the exact same material, but add something contrasting so it looks like it is supposed to be added (I’ve made pants longer using this idea a couple of times). Lace I imagine is a good way to do that for a wedding dress.
Better luck next time. Maybe your other daughter will shop for the dress without you!

I’m confused by your question the more I think about it having seen the dress. Maybe the LDS Church has gotten too cozy with women’s wear, I don’t know. Seeing what my wife gets, the shape of the sleeves (if you can call it that) are pretty small. Its more of a tank top style and would easily fit into what Elizabeth has for the dress.

The pictures in People magazine show sleeves on her dress. I’m not sure what picture you’re talking about.

You know, LIZ, the really sad reality is that due to what happened to her, she’s become a celebrity. We’re human….it’s normal to think about these things.

Oh that happens all the time here. No one bats an eye. I have a couple outfits like that! Your garments show through the sheer fabric.

I do think garments are changing a bit because I just bought Bill new garments and they’re pretty much made like regular T-Shirts. I think it looks nicer than the other garments.

We have two beautiful wedding dresses with sleeves (not sheer :)). What size is your daughter?

Oh, wow, I didn’t even get that it was about her. Boy, I made Sarah famous with my “Princess Buttgold” stories.

Thank you, Kris for validating me. I was so nervous when I posted this because I expected to be told in a million ways that I am a wacko. My only point was: Inquiring minds want to know and maybe I do now.

You’ll be happy to know, that as an ExMo, I actually think garments are none of my business. I don’t care. But I will say that Elizabeth Smart is the best representative of your faith that you have going. Articulate, beautiful, and having overcome horrific circumstances, she is a real life heroine. Just get rid of Glenn Beck–he is embarrassing you folks.

I’m not embarrassed by Glen Beck. I never think of Glen Beck.

I bet you oh, $10, that 99.9 % of active Mormon women who see that picture thought the same thing.
Yeah, I feel like a bit of a jerk for noticing it, but it’s noticeable. I mean, I didn’t put her on the front cover of People. Are we supposed to pretend not to notice?

m going to report back on garments after I get some new ones. I pretty much wear my garments into the ground.

My daughter, who wears garments, wears a lot of tops that I’ve found questionable, but I’ve never said anything because I’m scared of her now. The garments had to have changed.

I am a convert and waited a long time to go through the temple to wear those garments. Even went without my hubby (he joined me a year later). I donated thousands of dollars worth of clothes just to wear my garments properly. So, yes I noticed it right away. She looked lovely, but I did notice.

I have heard that some of the styles have changed, but I haven’t bought any for a while. Will have to check into it. I don’t know if that would change how I dress as I hate my upper arms flapping in the wind – lol!

Mommie D.- That is my point. Elizabeth does look lovely. I want to know how she pulled it off so my daughter can look lovely on her (someday – NO PRESSURE, Jenn. We love you and aren’t trying to sell you off to the highest bidder. At least, not too much.) wedding day also.

When I find a pretty, Mormon-friendly look I want the details. Her wedding dress puzzles me. If the lace sleeves are lined with nude fabric, is it kosher to have the appearance of no garment cap sleeve?

I can hardly wait for my Carinessa tops to get here and see how they work. My upper arms are one of the only parts of me that hasn’t gone to pot yet and I want to take advantage of non-sleeves if I can.

I don’t know why she had to go to New York for a dress. Sarah’s dresses were both prettier and temple appropriate. I’ve seen some really gorgeous dresses in the temple that were very modest and more stylish.

You know, if you’re going to go on the cover of People magazine, you should expect people to look.

Oh my goodness, somebody thinks I’m fashion forward? Wait till I tell that to my daughters. HA!

I looked again at the People Mag website photos, and I think she’s just wearing her g-tops like a camisole under the bodice/sleeve lace, or a cami-lining under the bodice. Probably not a nude lining. And it looks like Carinessa fit. In some photos it appears to be riding up on her shoulder, which they can do. They’re that snug. They do have a sort of lacy elastic edge at the neckline, and a self-hem at the sleeve edge. No set-in sleeves, just wide over the shoulder.

What’s kosher? You (or your daughter) get to decide that for yourself, and I get to mind my own business. All I’ve ever heard was that you wear the garment the way it is intended, which is vague enough that you get to figure out the particulars of that for yourself.

I think Elizabeth Smart looks great, however I had the same question when I saw it. I was impressed she could wear the dress with garments. Thanks for asking the question Living in Zion!

It is so hard to find stuff to wear with garments as a woman so it’s nice when people are open about how they make stuff work for them.

Are the Carinessas available for Men? I’d like to be able to wear nearly sleeveless garments too. Some of my Garments stick out of the sleeves of my T-shirts. Men definitely get the short end of that stick.

#32 – That is the only style of garments that would work with Elizabeth Smarts wedding dress. And I say if it is good enough for Elizabeth, it is good enough for me.

LIZ, when it comes time to go on the dress hunt with your daughter, it may be worth considering just having it made. When I got married, my Mom did a google search in the area (I was finishing up at BYU) and found two sisters with their own home business. I got a totally unique dress custom made for me according to my preferences, and it only ended up costing around $600. Unfortunately, I don’t believe they’re still doing it, as I can’t find them on a search anymore. But that may be another option to consider.

My wife got the most beautiful dress. She actually found it on the Clearance rack at David’s Bridal in SLC for $50. Then she spent another $50 on alterations that included removable wrist-length sleeves for in the temple.

I wondered the same thing when I saw the photos. I think she either didn’t wear her garment top for the cover shot or People altered the photo? In other photos where she is seated at the reception table, her right garment sleeve is longer and clearly shoes through the lace compared to the right sleeve so maybe the left side just crept up? I don’t believe there is a nude colored lining to her lace sleeves. In the photo with her sister it clearly shows white under the lace at her shoulders. My daughter will be getting married this summer and will have this challenge of finding an appropriate modest dress too! I loved Elizabeth’s dress too!

I shake my head at public actions like that not because I’m judging the person (we all vary in our faithfulness, after all), but because I want the right image of me to be out there in case someone looks at a public figure to figure me out.

If you don’t want the prying and judgmental eyes of Utah, don’t put yourself on the cover of People Mag. wearing a wedding dress that wouldn’t cover garments.

Maybe it will be okay to show a bit of garment someday in the future? Today, it is okay to see men’s garments at the neckline. Maybe women’s garments could be tailored in a special way to make them look nice when peaking from below?

Moogie – Thank You! Your answer is the only one that makes perfect sense and I would have never thought of it. Photoshopping, of course! I am so old school about technology I keep forgetting everything is photoshopped.