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Oooohhh…animatronic Brigham Young! Brilliant. I completely agree with you. We toured the Beehive house many years ago when we had little kids in strollers. I found it uninspiring to say the least. The thing I remember the most is either they gave us or I bought a piece of gift store candy for each of us at the end of the tour. It was some kind of old fashioned, true-to-the-age kind of hard candy. Nasty. Truly disgusting. Not only did our three kids spit their candy out immediately, I left mine in the bushes outside the door. I bet there is a big old pile of nasty candy in those bushes. |
For goodness sake don’t go to the Mormon Battalion Visitor Center in San Diego. The lovely young sister missionary who led the tour I went on repeated so often that it was their “faith in Christ” that impelled the men of the battalion to get up and march and shoot at donkeys, for a year and 2,000 miles, etc., etc., that I couldn’t help but think of Holden Caulfield’s comment about the mortician who spoke at chapel at Pencey Prep and told the boys to always “pray to Jesus”–all Holden could imagine was the guy, revving his Caddy at the red light, praying to Jesus to send him a few more stiffs. |
Toured the Beehive house for the first time a month ago. There was a weird sense of displacement about the place especially when, late in the tour, the sisters mentioned that the house had been substantially modified by later owners. Also, a strange mix of hard facts (i.e. the sisters at one point showed which curtains were reproductions and which other items were actual artifacts) with vague reconstructions (i.e. “children enjoyed playing in these rooms” – Brigham’s children? the later owners’?) It reminded me most of a tour of the Winchester mansion in San Jose, CA – where the tour guide whisked me through many empty, un-decorated rooms without any explanation and then would stop occasionally at some random-seeming place to state with absolute conviction that some particular event happened there. |
Well, liz, at least the candy would have been memorable. They don’t do it anymore. Not bland enough for current standards, I imagine. Actually, Mark B., I was at that visitors’ center last year. Now, I have no shortage of qualms with it, as I do with all church historic sites (they’re all way to hagiographic, which drives me crazy), but it’s leagues ahead of the Beehive House in terms of trying to be at least somewhat interesting, memorable, and site specific. They’ve got this new whiz-bangy setup with video guides that appear in pictures to lead you through different rooms and tell the stories. Again, pretty Disneyland-y, but at least it was something. |
That was “horehound candy.” Although it doesn’t taste very good, it does have a memorable name. |
Orwell, I had a very similar experience to yours when I toured the Beehive House last summer. I describe my experience briefly at the beginning of this post: http://bycommonconsent.com/2012/08/04/the-education-of-a-blogger/ But I’ve been through the Beehive House many times a long time ago, and the tour back then was about a thousand times better, much more interesting. Whoever is in charge of the script has ruined the tour. (Also, the guides used to be senior sisters, not young ones, and I suspect that made a difference as well.) |
Thanks for that link, Kevin. I remember that post but had forgotten that it started with the Beehive House anecdote. On one hand, I am gratified that your experience (and that of most of the commenters) aligns with mine because it means I can’t be accused of making stuff up or only seeing what I want to see. On the other hand, it depresses me that my tour wasn’t an exception to a superior norm. |
General historical stuff sounds better to me than over-done church-y. I took my kids down to Nauvoo 2 summers ago, with the intent that I could help them attach to church history a little better, strengthen their mormon-ness. My husband’s inactive, so we don’t regularly go to church history sites. Maybe we hit it on a bad day – we were there before the start of the summer tourist season and were one of the few families there, but every single site and activity we did had the main focus of, “and this is like families…” or “this is like faith…” or “this is like the priesthood…” etc. My kids were completely turned off by it. Why can’t we be shown how to make a candle or a length of rope, or how a gun is shot or a bullet made or a gingerbread cookie baked without it becoming a gospel analogy?? |
I know the kind of thing you’re talking about, though, and it is pretty off-putting. Fortunately, this time around, the sisters’ reference upsell was half-hearted and easily dismissed. If it weren’t for that reference pitch then they could also dispense with the thinly veiled manipulative small talk aimed at determining the status of your Mormon-ness so that they know whether to ask you to meet with the missionaries or refer someone. By all means, have reference cards available or something, but don’t make the visitors feel like they’ve walked into a trap. |
Yes! I hate, hate, hate the reference card hard-sell. The reference card business was very difficult in Independence, MO. I was standing with my family at the Liberty Jail thinking,”Help! I am trapped in the Liberty Jail because I can’t come up with the name and address of an unsuspecting friend to give the missionaries.” I’ve been a member my whole adult life. At this point all my friends know I am LDS. If they wanted to join, they have. And no way am I involving anyone from work in my religion. Again, people know who I am. Reference cards should be available but don’t press them into my hand saying,”I’m sure you can think of at least one person who would love to hear about the gospel.” |
I think next time I get pressured to provide a reference I’ll pick a random name at a random address in a cool city where missionaries probably never go. Trier, Germany (population 106,000), for example–a cool city that, to the best of my knowledge, no longer has missionaries, but can be found on the Bible maps in our KJV. Or Limburg, Germany (population of 34,000), which was in one of my areas as a missionary but I only got to see once, and only because we decided to make the long train ride out. If the missionaries want to follow up on those leads, they’ll get to check out a cool city they otherwise probably wouldn’t have. If they’re too busy with appointments they probably won’t bother following up on the lead in the distant city, but if they usually spend all day tracting, heading out to a different city would be a nice break. Even if they can’t find the contact they’re looking for. |
Tim- You are so generous! If I was a missionary I would love you. |